Dublin skyline
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Morlan.
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- December 4, 2006 at 9:15 pm #747943
malec
ParticipantApart from the left side I quite like it. Much much better than the victoria mills crap we got, at least it has a few interesting features
December 4, 2006 at 11:57 pm #747944rob mc
Participant@Morlan wrote:
The third is the point village tower: http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2006/000266.html
SWEET!!! that looks really cool,its going to be amazing having point village tower on one side of the liffey and u2 tower on the other.also huseuston gat looks real cool 5 years tho thats just stupid.burj dubai in dubai is only taking 3 years and just look at it http://www.infocast.dk/jp/jp.php?id=788&offset=&category=ALL&q=
December 5, 2006 at 12:02 am #747945rob mc
Participant@paul h wrote:
Is there any work actually started on heuston gate? when is it due to be complete?
Also alto/monto vetro? whats the status, any pictures?!here paul
montevetro: http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/thumbs/1343Montevetro_pic1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php%3Fid%3D1343&h=111&w=100&sz=5&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=D-YXVJ78gHsFFM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=77&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmontevetro%2Bdublin%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
alto vetro:http://www.homanobrien.ie/img/housing02s.jpg
nothing amazing but its somethingDecember 5, 2006 at 1:09 am #747946paul h
Participantthanks rob mc, but i was wondering if work has actually started on them??
I’m not architect but i cant find anything offensive with that buiding in the pictures:confused:
December 5, 2006 at 3:00 am #747947garethace
ParticipantOne of the first people to change the skyline in Dublin, Sam Stephenson.
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=5606
Brian O’ Hanlon.
December 5, 2006 at 7:23 pm #747948rob mc
Participant@paul h wrote:
thanks rob mc, but i was wondering if work has actually started on them??
I’m not architect but i cant find anything offensive with that buiding in the pictures:confused:
dont think so no but everything is ready for them to start.just a matter of time,probably early next year
March 19, 2007 at 7:17 am #747949Morlan
ParticipantI’m more looking forward to the revamped bridge to be honest
March 22, 2009 at 12:55 am #747950jackwade
ParticipantDoes this count as false advertising?
That’s Morlan’s photoshopped picture, first posted on page 11 of this thread.
March 22, 2009 at 8:41 am #747951igy
Participant@jackwade wrote:
Does this count as false advertising?
That’s Morlan’s photoshopped picture, first posted on page 11 of this thread.
ha, that’s nice of them 🙂
At least they left his watermark on it
March 22, 2009 at 2:53 pm #747952Paul Clerkin
Keymasterunlike mine which they just nicked
March 22, 2009 at 8:35 pm #747953Morlan
Participant@jackwade wrote:
Does this count as false advertising?
That’s Morlan’s photoshopped picture, first posted on page 11 of this thread.
Thanks for the heads up. Just doing up an invoice now.
March 27, 2009 at 3:14 pm #747954Pepsi
Participanti saw a clip on the news the other day about clongriffin, dublin. i was amazed to see a rather nice plush looking highrise here so i checked out their wesite http://www.clongriffin.ie to see what it’s all about. the larger image on the right hand side of the page shows what i saw on the news but it also shows further highrise buildings. are the “red” buildings under constuction at present? does anyone know? looks good.
April 9, 2009 at 3:24 pm #747955Contraband
Participant57 metres?
The Riverpoint Tower and the Clarion Hotel Tower in Limerick City are both taller than that! How is it that in the nation’s capital in one of the most expensive areas the only buildings that can be built fall behind buildings already built in Limerick?
I know tallness isn’t everything, but seriously at least one decent actual skyscraper would be nice.April 10, 2009 at 1:53 am #747956rumpelstiltskin
ParticipantI must warn you that you’re just asking for a barrage of idiotic arguments against high rise: from the (false) claim that they would be out of place in what is essentially a low rise city, to the (equally false) argument that high rise buildings will not increase density in Dublin, as if that were even the point.
I totally agree that Dublin needs some high rise buildings. Such buildings are a crucial way for a capital city to express its openness to thinking big and remaining dynamic into the future. From a purely architectural perspective, skyscrapers create contrasts and shadows and sculptural effects undreamed of by those who are limited to a view of vast planes of five storey retail park fodder. I mean, was Georgian Dublin constructed at the same height, block after block? No. Variation was key to its success. The modern equivalent is a more substantial varying of heights – and nothing could be more contextual to Dublin than that. Anybody who surveyed Ireland’s account books for the last twenty years and then went to look at the docklands would be drawn to the inevitable conclusion that some kind of pathology is in effect here – a simple primeval fear preventing Dublin from getting it up like normal cities.
April 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm #747957Smithfield Resi
Participantbarrage of idiotic arguments against high rise: from the (false) claim that they would be out of place in what is essentially a low rise city, to the (equally false) argument that high rise buildings will not increase density in Dublin, as if that were even the point.
Nice starting point for reasonable debate…calling holders of the opposite view idiotic.
I could equally express it as….
barrage of idiotic arguments for high rise: from the (false) claim that they would make Dublin a ‘modern city’, to the (equally false) argument that high rise buildings will increase density in Dublin, as if that were even the point.
“crucial way for a capital city to express its openness to thinking big and remaining dynamic into the future”
How exactly is a low/medium rise city less open-minded?
From a purely architectural perspective, skyscrapers create contrasts and shadows and sculptural effects undreamed of by those who are limited to a view of vast planes of five storey retail park fodder.
Are you saying that architects cannot express contrast and sculptural effects in less than 15 storeys? Really?
http://thomasmayerarchive.de/details.php?image_id=86095&l=englishI mean, was Georgian Dublin constructed at the same height, block after block? No. Variation was key to its success.
Equally, the uniformity of the rooflines of the grand Georgian terraces is part of their beauty, Without the need to ‘punctuate’ the skyline (god, I loathe that word)
The modern equivalent is a more substantial varying of heights – and nothing could be more contextual to Dublin than that.
Define substantial. That seems to be the crux of the debate….
Anybody who surveyed Ireland’s account books for the last twenty years and then went to look at the docklands would be drawn to the inevitable conclusion that some kind of pathology is in effect here – a simple primeval fear preventing Dublin from getting it up like normal cities.
Since you bring up the inevitable phallic allusion, is the frustration at the lack of high-rise expressed by the ‘we want it big and tall and now!’ brigade a primeaval fear of impotence? 😀
April 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm #747958thebig C
Participant@Contraband wrote:
57 metres?
The Riverpoint Tower and the Clarion Hotel Tower in Limerick City are both taller than that! How is it that in the nation’s capital in one of the most expensive areas the only buildings that can be built fall behind buildings already built in Limerick?
I know tallness isn’t everything, but seriously at least one decent actual skyscraper would be nice.I thought that was strange also. I recall seeing a recent acticle listing the height as approx62 metres. I.E, 14×4 metre office floors plus a 6 metre ground floor lobby.
Maybe the planners gave it a crew cut on the basis that nothing should stand taller then Liberty Hall. I am being facecious I know….but that mindset does exist!
C
April 10, 2009 at 8:03 pm #747959rob mc
Participant@thebig C wrote:
I thought that was strange also. I recall seeing a recent acticle listing the height as approx62 metres. I.E, 14×4 metre office floors plus a 6 metre ground floor lobby.
Maybe the planners gave it a crew cut on the basis that nothing should stand taller then Liberty Hall. I am being facecious I know….but that mindset does exist!
C
Would 5 metres really make much of a difference?
Maybe they can stick a piece of metal to the top of it,like they seem to do with most medium rise building in this country to make seem bit bigger 😀
April 10, 2009 at 8:08 pm #747960rob mc
Participant@Contraband wrote:
57 metres?
The Riverpoint Tower and the Clarion Hotel Tower in Limerick City are both taller than that! How is it that in the nation’s capital in one of the most expensive areas the only buildings that can be built fall behind buildings already built in Limerick?
I know tallness isn’t everything, but seriously at least one decent actual skyscraper would be nice.You cant just build one massive skyscraper in the middle of low/medium rise buildings, unless you want it to end up like Manchester,which looks completely ridiculous!

April 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm #747961Contraband
ParticipantAt least they have something.
I know, I know, I know – height isn’t everything. Like it or not though, it is a symbol of a modern city, of progress, and of success. I recognize that in the midst of one of the deepest recessions Ireland’s ever seen, building skyscrapers isn’t really what the city should focus on.
However, what I will say, is that I really don’t understand why the city constantly fought any high rise development during the boom years, and why getting a building, which is only 57 meters high, is seen as a triumph for the Dublin high-rise movement.
Maybe now high rise should get built, simply for the fact that it is the cheapest time to build. Prepare for the future?April 11, 2009 at 4:21 pm #747962rob mc
Participant@Contraband wrote:
At least they have something.
I know, I know, I know – height isn’t everything. Like it or not though, it is a symbol of a modern city, of progress, and of success. I recognize that in the midst of one of the deepest recessions Ireland’s ever seen, building skyscrapers isn’t really what the city should focus on.
However, what I will say, is that I really don’t understand why the city constantly fought any high rise development during the boom years, and why getting a building, which is only 57 meters high, is seen as a triumph for the Dublin high-rise movement.
Maybe now high rise should get built, simply for the fact that it is the cheapest time to build. Prepare for the future?Yea i know what you mean, and i whole heartedly agree that Dublin really needs to go higher. And its true that in todays world people believe that the higher your buildings the more rich and powerful you are.
But in relation to this development a 15 story building in an area where 6 stories is frowned upon and where people fear that buildings of this size may fall on them, this is a triumph, at last.:D
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