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  • #708257
    BTH
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    Passing through Drogheda I couldn’t resist stopping to have a look at the new Scotch Hall development. Designed by Douglas Wallace for Gerry Barrett’s Edward Holdings it’s a huge mixed use scheme containing a major shopping mall, the “d” hotel, apartments and offices and included the construction of a new bridge to link the scheme with the town centre.

    I wasn’t expecting it to be so good! It isn’t perfect but it’s way way ahead of everything else in this country, including the much hyped Dundrum Town Centre. The exterior is mad, particularly the riverside elevation with it’s array of forms, materials and fragments of old docklands warehouses – but somehow it works and creates a very exciting composition when combined with the bridge.

    #763327
    BTH
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    The incorporation of the major warehouses is exemplary – they have been beautifully restored and create a really interesting heart to the shopping centre. It’ll be great when the planned restaurants and cafe’s open up and activate the spaces. The malls themselves, though somewhat lacking in natural light owing to the high density, have great personality and individuality within a very controlled and tasteful palette of materials. I have to say I really enjoyed just walking around inside the building which isn’t something I can say about any other shopping centre! And the escalator space with all the blue lights is really cool and sci-fi!

    The rear and side of the scheme arent so exciting but the manner in which the multi-storey carpark has been screened with the hotel is also exemplary. Loading bays and access appear to have been hidden away under the building and have minimal impact externally.

    I could be really picky and point up a few niggles and issues with various things but the net result is still a great, visionary piece of urbanism, shopping centre design and an example to developers throughout the country of how things should be done.

    #763328
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    is that bridge there now or is it a proposal? i like it.

    #763329
    BTH
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    Its real alright! It’s extremely simple and elegant and hits the quay walls with a minimum of fuss… My panorama at the top didn’t quite work out so thats maybe why it looks a bit strange as does the copper box on the right hand side…

    #763330
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    they are nice images.

    #763331
    BTH
    Participant

    Thanks alpha – I have to say the Sony K750i camera phone was a great investment – it takes lovely pictures and I always have it with me…

    #763332
    Rory W
    Participant

    It’s called the de Lacy bridge after the founder of Drogheda Hugh de Lacy, nice bridge with a slight gradient on it. The boardwalk area in front of the building is to play host to a farmers market which will be good during the summer.

    #763333
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Nice bridge in itself, but yawn, it’s in every town and village across Europe at this stage. Calatrava’s illegitimates.
    And like the James Joyce in Dublin, it looks out of context – appearing especially ridiculous looking down from the rail bridge (not that this should be the reference point of all design in the town of course :)).
    Drogheda is such a moody, atmospherically gloomy place; this bridge comes across as a desperate attempt to sex the place up and just looks silly I think.

    Scotch Hall looks good all in all, thanks for the pictures BTH. This area in particular is a lovely space:

    #763334
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    i like the bridge itself but not the location. i agree that it is a bit out of context. i wonder is that bridge above a bit longer than the james joyce bridge? it certainly is slender.

    #763335
    Rory W
    Participant
    Graham Hickey wrote:
    Drogheda is such a moody, atmospherically gloomy place]

    Ah now – you make it sound so dramatic :rolleyes:

    #763336
    rebel_city
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    Just wondering what kind of retailers are located there? It looks impressive.

    #763337
    BTH
    Participant

    It’s a fairly standard mix rebel_city – unfortunately Dunnes Stores have done their usual trick of outbidding every other major retailer for the anchor store – A M&S or Debenhams here would have really improved things. Theres an impressive HMV, a huge Next and all the usual suspects…

    Dunnes are unbelievable, I don’t know how they can sustain so many multiple stores in towns and cities around the country. For example in Galway there are two major ones in the city centre, another big one at westside shopping centre and they are to be the anchor tenants in two more big developments on the east and west sides of the city, having outbid Tescos and Superquinn for both leases. They arerumoured to be the anchor in the new Oranmore town centre development as well…
    I know it’s an indigenous company and all and that the standard of their shops is always rising but a bit more variety in the market would be nice!

    #763338
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Agree that M&S would be nice but they have their problems. Dunnes are neck and neck in the race with Tesco. Superquinn is not really a contender ( a food-only store’s margins are too tight), so if Dunnes or Tesco do not win, you will get either Aldi or Lidl.
    KB2

    #763339
    BTH
    Participant

    Sort of off the subject but in Galway both Tesco and Superquinn have been trying desperately to get a site in the city somewhere, but every development proposed has ended up with Dunnes Stores… They must have a lot of money behind them! As it stands Galway has 3 Dunnes supermarkets (I forgot the Dunnes at Terryland!) and one useless Tesco – a former quinnsworth in the abysmal Glaway Shopping Centre. The city is very poorly served for grocery shopping and it’s a pity that even newer developments are going to be more of the same…

    #763340
    Morlan
    Participant

    Fair play to Dunnes for outbidding the others. I don’t like the idea of Tesco dominating the Irish market.

    #763341
    GrahamH
    Participant

    @Rory W wrote:

    Ah now – you make it sound so dramatic :rolleyes:

    But it is a gloomy, moody place:

    It’s funny that nobody who lives in Drogheda gets to see the town from their own railway bridge 🙂

    #763342
    Rory W
    Participant

    That’s because the Railway station is before you come to the Bridge!!!:D

    Scotch Hall website
    http://www.scotch-hall.com/

    The D Hotel
    http://www.thedhotel.com/d/index.asp

    #763343
    lexington
    Participant

    @Rory W wrote:

    That’s because the Railway station is before you come to the Bridge!!!:D

    Scotch Hall website
    http://www.scotch-hall.com/

    Re: website – ‘Scotch Hall Experience: SHE has arrived!’

    Clearly a moment of inspiration with the Director of Marketing following a visit by his mother-in-law. 😀

    I think the weather in the image above doesn’t do Drogheda any favours either, looking forward to visiting SH on my way up to Dundalk.

    #763344
    GrahamH
    Participant

    And to be fair, the town looked simply stunning in the dying winter sunlight this afternoon – alas no camera.
    In any case the permanent layers of filth that reside on Enterprise windows would have precluded any decent shot from being captured :rolleyes:

    #763345
    corcaighboy
    Participant

    Nice photos BTH,,,thanks for those. Looks like a nice development to me….certainly much better than The Marshes Shopping Centre. Also like the Bridge…a bit daring in design perhaps, but nothing wrong in that.

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