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February 23, 2004 at 4:26 pm #706855AnonymousInactive
Maybe it’s me but can we make it lads that postings in future have to make sense, eh garath?
:rolleyes:
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February 23, 2004 at 4:44 pm #741058AnonymousInactive
I am not going to comment on the culprits, but I really agree with you Alan. I am finding some of the threads here lately hard to make any sense of!
Thanks
Phil
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February 23, 2004 at 5:34 pm #741059ro_GParticipant
indeed. as a casual onlooker i find it hard to concentrate on any post that exceeds 10-15 lines. particularly if the post is debating with itself before anyone else even has a read of it.
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February 23, 2004 at 5:39 pm #741060helloinsaneParticipant
And then once you *do* start debating, the previous posts suddenly change, shrink and disappear… very disconcerting.
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February 23, 2004 at 6:22 pm #741061blueParticipant
You’ve lost me …. :confused:
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February 24, 2004 at 10:40 am #741062AnonymousInactive
Hey ro_G, you’re a glutton for punshment, obviously. Post exceeding 10-15 lines, eh?
Recently postings have my eyes bleeding after the first unintelligible sentence.
Losing interest fast, consequently…………….. and sadly
Architecture is easy, obviously it’s english that’s hard….oh and puting together a single, coherent thought
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February 24, 2004 at 12:01 pm #741063sw101Participant
ah now lads what with the oh and the when the left look you cant but read the when the country taisce blood red finger eaters generator bastarding LOL LOL LOL!!! (urinating dog)(urinating dog) left my heart in san green filly blow shove it concreting the bow where i country.
whas your problem then?
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February 24, 2004 at 12:08 pm #741064FINParticipant
indeed.
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February 24, 2004 at 12:19 pm #741065AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by sw101
ah now lads what with the oh and the when the left look you cant but read the when the country taisce blood red finger eaters generator bastarding LOL LOL LOL!!! (urinating dog)(urinating dog) left my heart in san green filly blow shove it concreting the bow where i country.Easy to see why you did Architecture and not English although if there was a degree in hate studies you’d just have to turn up for the exam, you’d get a 1.1
Originally posted by sw101
whas your problem then?With the thread in total its in the wrong section, it should be in Suggestions and Announcements
With this post in particular, it sounds like a spoilt kid whinging on about a former lecturer who found said kid ordinary at best.
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February 24, 2004 at 12:22 pm #741066AnonymousInactive
Indod.
Thanks again sw101, can now see clearly both sides of the argument.
Sorry, did you say Sydley?
……naw ah didly
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February 24, 2004 at 3:39 pm #741067helloinsaneParticipant
There’s nowhere near enough semi-random bold type or tenuous cross-linking in this thread.
I demand answers!
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February 24, 2004 at 3:48 pm #741068AnonymousInactive
I like the quotes in a box additions …….. so recently favoured by Diaspora, helloinsane.
The bombast , when he?she? tells you you’re in the wrong section also is particularly satisfying.
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February 24, 2004 at 3:53 pm #741069helloinsaneParticipant
It was an evolutionary response to an ever-changing environment.
Bombast, good word.
I would like to reiterate that I’m generally in favour of architectural debate, especially here. Any comments should be taken as helpful, if satirical, criticism.
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February 24, 2004 at 3:56 pm #741070garethaceParticipant
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February 24, 2004 at 3:58 pm #741071AnonymousInactive
Aw hey, tell me about it helloinsane.
As the pig said……… debate good, bullshit bad.
“Mies on a T shirt” by the way…………very funny, you can’t be Canadian.
Laugh, I nearly spilt ma bawbees
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February 24, 2004 at 4:06 pm #741072AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by helloinsane
I would like to reiterate that I’m generally in favour of architectural debate, especially here. Any comments should be taken as helpful, if satirical, criticism.Most posters are in favour of debate this site has seen many well conceived debates.
Originally posted by helloinsane
It was an evolutionary response to an ever-changing environment.Bombast, good word.
I must plead deficiency on the latter however.
The prize for ultimate Bombast goes to Alan D on the ‘When Sligo clipped the wings of Dunlop and Murray’ Thread.
1. The claim that there was a need for a Sligo-|Galasgow chamber of Commerce.
2. That the poor clients children would have nothing to inherit.
If stating that a thread attacking another contributor should have been posted as a suggestion is Bombastic, what is the attack itself?
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February 24, 2004 at 4:15 pm #741073garethaceParticipant
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February 24, 2004 at 4:16 pm #741074AnonymousInactive
…………ultimate Bombast, Diaspora ?.
Could that be a U Bombast, then?
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February 24, 2004 at 4:16 pm #741075helloinsaneParticipant
Originally posted by Diaspora
If stating that a thread attacking another contributor should have been posted as a suggestion is Bombastic, what is the attack itself?I read the tone as friendly, not attacking. Perhaps some modicum of criticism is justified?
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February 24, 2004 at 4:25 pm #741076AnonymousInactive
Feck me, where did that last post go Gareth?
Some poor bastard orbiting cyberspace in one thousand years time is gonna come across it……..just because you’ve edited its still somewhere in the ether……… still out there lurking. And what’s this null stuff all about………….short for numbscull?
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February 24, 2004 at 4:26 pm #741077AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by helloinsane
I read the tone as friendly, not attacking. Perhaps some modicum of criticism is justified?
Most of the critism on archiseek is, but images of ‘making eyes bleed’ and ‘numskull’ pushes that a little far I think 😮
Phil’s responses to this thread and many others are the perfect example of what you are getting at. . 😉
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February 24, 2004 at 4:54 pm #741078AnonymousInactive
what about a cluster bombast, Diaspora?………that’s when you brown nose a number of people at the one time
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February 24, 2004 at 5:01 pm #741079AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by alan d
what about a cluster bombast, Diaspora?………that’s when you brown nose a number of people at the one time :rolleyes:Originally posted by alan d
Maybe it’s me but can we make it lads that postings in future have to make sense, eh garath?:rolleyes:
Seeing as you brought colour into the argument. What about your post. It is very definietely a case of the Kettle calling the pot (Garethace) black. Beacaue your first quote makes absolutely no sense.
Did you bang your head when you fell out of the pram?
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February 24, 2004 at 5:22 pm #741080FINParticipant
ooch!
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February 24, 2004 at 5:28 pm #741081AnonymousInactive
well yes Diaspora…I did fall out of my pram and as a consequence am blind in one eye and wear a hearing aid.
It took me ten years to finish architecture school, when all around me said I should quit.
But I made it……. only just to be ridiculed by you
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February 24, 2004 at 5:40 pm #741082AnonymousInactive
Does anyone else find it somewhat amusing that this thread has now become one of the most confusing threads due to posts being edited to nothing etc etc? 🙂
Thanks
Phil
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February 24, 2004 at 5:49 pm #741083AnonymousInactive
………and O’Neil’s is an Irish theme bar in Sligo, Diaspora.
Your welcome
Al
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February 24, 2004 at 5:57 pm #741084AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by alan d
………and O’Neil’s is an Irish theme bar in Sligo, Diaspora.Your welcome
Al
I unlike you, took the comment of the bar at face value. Nothing in this Country surprises me anymore least of all the tone of this conversation.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Phil
……… editingAl [/QUOTE]
Yes that can be quite frustrating, but the differentiation needs to made ‘wordprossessing editing’ which is a good thing I feel. As opposed to ‘deleting’ editing on which your point is well made.
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February 24, 2004 at 6:02 pm #741085AnonymousInactive
Yes Diaspora, I agree with you. That was what I meant. Apologies for not making it clearer. 🙂
Thanks
Phil
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February 24, 2004 at 6:03 pm #741086AnonymousInactive
Diaspora, are you moolighting for the Samaritans?
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February 24, 2004 at 6:07 pm #741087garethaceParticipant
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February 24, 2004 at 7:29 pm #741088sw101Participant
garethace
Its nice to be able to exchange comments and point of interests as a slight aside to the drudgery of everyday work. Theres only so many specifications i can write and so many hours photoshopping i can slave away at before i need to see something of interest. someone highlighting an interesting building or asking a question, perhaps venturing a point of view for discussion……
your posts are extremely long, laborious and disjointed, making them difficult to read, unrewarding for those who reach the end, and nigh on impossible to reply to with out a hot head or tongue stuck firmly in cheek. your habit of nulling everything you write 5 minutes later is quite annoying too. if its good enough to post, leave it there. just dont leave all 5,000 words of it there. thats an essay, not a post as i see it.
why you and diaspora are getting up on your “everyone hates me” horse i dont know. people are just trying to lighten the tone and kindly point out that in recent times there have been many many many random thoughts expressed incoherently on this forum. its gets trying.
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February 24, 2004 at 8:27 pm #741089AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by sw101
why you and diaspora are getting up on your “everyone hates me” horse i dont know. people are just trying to lighten the tone and kindly point out that in recent times there have been many many many random thoughts expressed incoherently on this forum. its gets trying.I have never expressed any opinion as to my or anyone elses popularity either positive or negative.
Originally posted by sw101
ah now lads what with the oh and the when the left look you cant but read the when the country taisce blood red finger eaters generator bastarding LOL LOL LOL!!! (urinating dog)(urinating dog) left my heart in san green filly blow shove it concreting the bow where i country.whas your problem then?
My problem is with people who incoherently lash out.
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February 24, 2004 at 8:32 pm #741090T.G. ScottParticipant
Hear hear well said shaggy old man!!!
anything over 3 paragraphs tends to get skipped and if you are that thin skinned sod off and play somewhere else…..and you can take your football!
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February 24, 2004 at 8:37 pm #741091AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by another T.G. Scott
Sorry! That user has specified that they do not wish to receive emails through this board. If you still wish to send an email to this user, please contact the administrator and they may be able to help.Talking about the forum in general. Don’t you just love it that when it finally does get entertaining. All these new posters pop out of the woodwork.
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February 24, 2004 at 8:56 pm #741092garethaceParticipant
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February 25, 2004 at 2:04 am #741093sw101Participant
Originally posted by Diaspora
I have never expressed any opinion as to my or anyone elses popularity either positive or negative.
oh really? well this was a direct reply to my comments. care to elaborate?
Easy to see why you did Architecture and not English although if there was a degree in hate studies you’d just have to turn up for the exam, you’d get a 1.1[/B]
My problem is with people who incoherently lash out. [/B]
your problems run a lot deeper than that budday
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February 25, 2004 at 2:17 am #741094BulldozerGirlParticipant
The problem with this forum is that the posts are squashed at the side of the screen. And what would have been one line in a normal forum, appears as 2.5 lines here – so posts appear 2.5 times longer, and this makes people bored and they try to skip lines when reading (at least that’s what I do).
I’m glad other people have noticed that garethace talks nonsense sometimes. But to me, very detailed architecture discussions with strange terminology also sounds like nonsense, and Diaspora is also guilty of philosophizing in each post.
I thought James Joyce was crazy, and he became famous in an “Emperor’s New Clothes” sort of way. But now I realized that this style of writing is comprehensible by some people – and it is an art.
So.. here’s what I remember from the few pages I read of Ulysses – it sounds like something garethace would appreciate:
“Something something Sinbad the Sailor, Tinbad the Tailor, Rinbad the Railer, Minbad the Mailer, Ninbad the Nailer, etc.”
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February 25, 2004 at 10:15 am #741095AnonymousInactive
Don’t really have any problem with the forum myself Bulldozer, in fact I think it is structured perfectly for debate. As a consequence is becoming very popular.
If I have a worry it’s that you don’t know who people really are. Iv’e no idea if Diaspora is male or female for example. I mean I think he’s a bloke but I could be standing beside “him” at a bus stop in Dublin and be COMPLETELY unaware.
I mean, I might be almost certain that the goofy guy with the pudding bowl haircut, Kylie T shirt and dog eared copy of The Return of the King tucked under his arm is Diaspora but I would really never know. It’s a bit disconcerting, I find 😉
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February 25, 2004 at 11:18 am #741096AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
I thought James Joyce was crazy, and he became famous in an “Emperor’s New Clothes” sort of way. But now I realized that this style of writing is comprehensible by some people – and it is an art.
It’s called Hiberno-English and like all dialects it can be a little difficult to pick up. But it must surely be better than this one world junk that doing the rounds courtesy of ‘Freinds’ etc
Alan I am a 30 something male, the last dodgy haircut I had cost $0.80c and was a blade 3 all-over. As for Kylie never liked her The Reynolds girls were my Pete Waterman favourites. 😀
SW101 Don’t worry my shrink nearly has them under control, he said I just need to avoid a certain type of individual and I’ll be OK.
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February 25, 2004 at 2:10 pm #741097helloinsaneParticipant
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
I’m glad other people have noticed that garethace talks nonsense sometimes. But to me, very detailed architecture discussions with strange terminology also sounds like nonsense, and Diaspora is also guilty of philosophizing in each post.I think if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck you can be pretty sure of what you have.
Yes – architectural criticism can, on occasion, be impenetrable. This is most emphatically *not* a good thing, yet it seems to be picked up on by a certain kind of mind, which then blithely assumes anything of similiar impenetrability must be of value. Sadly this is rarely the case, as has been amply demonstrated lately.
Golden rule: If it’s hard to read, nine times out of ten it’s not worth reading.
If the purpose of writing here is debate then comprehension is key. Otherwise it’s just persiflage masquerading as insight.
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February 25, 2004 at 4:26 pm #741098sw101Participant
persiflage-
niiiiiice. you incomprehesivitymeister you
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February 25, 2004 at 4:50 pm #741099FINParticipant
u never liked kylie!!! my god man!
persiflage!!!! i liked that too. have no idea what it means but sounds funny.
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February 25, 2004 at 4:54 pm #741100AnonymousParticipant
Originally posted by FIN
u never liked kylie!!! my god man!
I never got over her ‘I should be so lucky’ Phase in the late 80’s.
I know she spent a few years in Belgium during the mid 90’s with a dance label. Her stuff since her comeback has been more tolerable but.. How much of what you see is real
The Voice
The Body
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February 25, 2004 at 5:13 pm #741101garethaceParticipant
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
The problem with this forum is that the posts are squashed at the side of the screen.Message board formats.
This is where I started off as an online message board contributor:
http://www.aceshardware.com/forum
It is a pretty radical approach to a message board design, and serves that online community of computer specialists surprisingly well indeed. Notice how you can cut in anywhere in the thread. Meaning you can have a number of parallel discussions on the same thread. The only way you know what is a new post, is by the red ‘new’ sign at the start of a new post.
Any threads you have looked at turn from blue to purple in the main message board list. The messages just move off the screen as each day goes by. You have to keep the links yourself somewhere, like in an email or somewhere, if you wish to re-visit an older thread from a month ago say.
This means the message board constantly gets flushed periodically rather like a toilet. Allowing discussion about new computer products, new articles, topics etc to take precedence all the time. I mean, I could keep adding some stupid comment to a thread of my own making every day for months to keep it at the top of this message board.
While this feature can be an advantage for some old threads like ‘The spike’ where some new piece of information breaks about it. I can see how it would ‘piss off’ regular posters a bit too, with guys like myself camping on the discussions I just wish to stay active.
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February 25, 2004 at 7:37 pm #741102AnonymousInactive
This thread has started to make me think about this forum as a sort of ‘online public space’. It is of course an exclusionary space in many respects (it is limited to people who have internet access and a small amount of internet knowledge along with other factors). However it still interests me as a sort of ‘space’. I wonder if we were all meeting up in a real public space what the outcome would be? I am willing to guess that who ever was controlling it would have had to install CCTV cameras by now! Anyone else any thoughts on this? :p
Thanks
Phil
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February 25, 2004 at 7:42 pm #741103garethaceParticipant
If you want to give yourself a real foundation in these concepts though, look up a book by Susan Conway called ‘Unlocking your Knowledge Assets’ published by MicroSoft Press.
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February 25, 2004 at 8:41 pm #741104T.G. ScottParticipant
debate can be a polite form of fist fight and at worst a confusing exercise in i know bigger words than you! however persiflage is a gem and wit and a piss take are just that so keep your socks on gareth ace!
i didnt mean to sound snotty in my last post and i chose not to have my e-mail given out as it is an option. i dont think its relevant to the thread and privacy is a good thing plus if someone wants to e-mail me then that is what the moderator is for. bollocks enough about that – kylie is a cracker all 4 ft of her and with that…:D -
February 25, 2004 at 11:15 pm #741105BulldozerGirlParticipant
What’re you talking about – all of you? Your English is abnormal.
It is easy to arrange a meeting for everyone. How about Friday, February 27th, 12 noon – at the entrance of the St Stephen’s Green shopping mall. If you are a member here, go and stand there at that time and look at the people standing around you and see if they catch your eye 😉
I don’t like Kylie Minogue – she’s very small and thin and behaves in a silly way for a person her age – it’s pathetic. Her 80’s music isn’t so bad though 🙂
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February 25, 2004 at 11:17 pm #741106helloinsaneParticipant
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
If you are a member here, go and stand there at that time and look at the people standing around you and see if they catch your eye 😉Failing that, you can accost random people and ask them if they’re from the internet.
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February 26, 2004 at 12:24 am #741107T.G. ScottParticipant
kylie – lingerie commercial…..mechanical bull…..silk…..nuff said:D
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February 26, 2004 at 9:31 am #741108FINParticipant
mmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!! lovely eye candy. fair play to her
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February 26, 2004 at 10:14 am #741109AnonymousInactive
What is it then Ted………….is it a duck?
It’s difficult lusting after Kylie when you have a daughter at primary school. They’re both about the same height and waist size………something unsavoury about it.
Phil, what an interesting way to consider a forum. I agree.
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February 26, 2004 at 11:05 am #741110AnonymousInactive
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
It is easy to arrange a meeting for everyone. How about Friday, February 27th, 12 noon – at the entrance of the St Stephen’s Green shopping mall. If you are a member here, go and stand there at that time and look at the people standing around you and see if they catch your eye 😉Glad to see you have chosen the Stephens Green Centre as opposed to the Green itself. I assume that is because if anything were to get out of hand we could rely on the Stephens Green Shopping Centre Security to help us out!;)
Thanks
Phil
ps: Thanks Alan, it is somewhat similar to a ‘space’ isn’t it!?
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February 26, 2004 at 12:53 pm #741111AnonymousInactive
Originally posted by BulldozerGirl
It is easy to arrange a meeting for everyone. How about Friday, February 27th, 12 noon – at the entrance of the St Stephen’s Green shopping mall. If you are a member here, go and stand there at that time and look at the people standing around you and see if they catch your eye 😉
Great for some not to have to work, isn’t it.:D
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February 27, 2004 at 1:19 pm #741112AnonymousInactive
See archeire forum rates a mention in Concrete Boots section of Building design today.
Seven years late and with some crazy story about a scottish fisherman designing a castle for Cameron Mackintosh……….now, how unbelievable is that, Hugh?
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February 27, 2004 at 1:38 pm #741113sw101Participant
Also Rogers tower is supposedly a
“minger”, eh SW101whu
?what i do?
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February 27, 2004 at 1:50 pm #741114AnonymousInactive
Was it not you SW101 that so eloquently described Roger’s Leadenhall Tower scheme a “minger”
Well…………. it’s the talk of the town in London, obviously
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February 27, 2004 at 4:01 pm #741115GrahamHParticipant
This is fun.
Stephens Green Centre not the best place for this site BulldozerGirl – there’s a long history there…
Are you from the Internet – ha!
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February 28, 2004 at 2:53 pm #741116garethaceParticipant
Paul, do the people who fund the running of Archiseek forum understand what it costs to provide this service?
I mean, with a decent amount of bandwidth, I imagine it would be possible to introduce more high resolution content, say for instance in a competition such as Carlisle Pier or something.
Apart from all of the work on your part required to upload all of that work etc, etc.
Perhaps even something like a user gallery, heavily controlled and moderated might even be possible? I.e. One could link to a decent size of image – say 800×600 and no more than 175KB Jpeg file, like on a lot of forums.
I am definitely not into Avitars as they soak up bandwidth good-o.
I mean, we tend to think so much about architectural space in terms of text here – the presence of some form of visual companion to that is obviously lacking badly.
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February 28, 2004 at 2:56 pm #741117garethaceParticipant
This is something I think, which may not be possible, but would offer a way more depth to discussions here: The ability to cut in anywhere on a discussion and reply directly to a specific user’s post.
Message board formats.
This is where I started off as an online message board contributor:
http://www.aceshardware.com/forum
It is a pretty radical approach to a message board design, and serves that online community of computer specialists surprisingly well indeed. Notice how you can cut in anywhere in the thread. Meaning you can have a number of parallel discussions on the same thread. The only way you know what is a new post, is by the red ‘new’ sign at the start of a new post.
Any threads you have looked at turn from blue to purple in the main message board list. The messages just move off the screen as each day goes by. You have to keep the links yourself somewhere, like in an email or somewhere, if you wish to re-visit an older thread from a month ago say.
This means the message board constantly gets flushed periodically rather like a toilet. Allowing discussion about new computer products, new articles, topics etc to take precedence all the time. I mean, I could keep adding some stupid comment to a thread of my own making every day for months to keep it at the top of this message board.
While this feature can be an advantage for some old threads like ‘The spike’ where some new piece of information breaks about it. I can see how it would ‘piss off’ regular posters a bit too, with guys like myself camping on the discussions I just wish to stay active.
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February 28, 2004 at 2:58 pm #741118Paul ClerkinKeymaster
Originally posted by garethace
Paul, do the people who fund the running of Archiseek forum understand what it costs to provide this service? .You mean me and me?
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February 28, 2004 at 3:01 pm #741119garethaceParticipant
Is there someone else who you have to lobby to each year?
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February 29, 2004 at 4:05 am #741120asdasdParticipant
Paul,
why not stick a PayPal button up there and see if people donate occasionally. $5 a year wouldn’t kill anyone ( have a pledge week)
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March 1, 2004 at 2:20 am #741121sw101Participant
is that what paypal is for? i’d be on for that. or i could post some of my change to “mr. clerkin, care of the internet” 🙂
alan,
about the minger comment, the super industrial light as a feather uber buildings produved by fosters office just arent to my taste. sorry i have an opinion (runs off to cry under the stairs)
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March 1, 2004 at 10:15 am #741122AnonymousInactive
Hey sw101……… “minger” is fair comment within architectural circles in Scotland.
In fact, we use it all the time.
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