Bray Town Centre

Some more pictures. It really is a huge development, almost like an entirely new town.

no it was refused by bord pleanala and it is unlikely to ever get permission with the greens now in power

@archipimp wrote:

it is unlikely to ever get permission with the greens now in power

There’s a new submission going in by year end and given Greens appear to have sold out on almost all their principles I doubt if many changes to the planning regime are on their way.

Another Dundrum Town / Shopping Centre.

the development was refused for technical reasons relating to flooding defence work, which are underway anyway. Therefore they can submit the exact same application and get it granted. It will go ahead. And the Greens should be supporting the intensification of land use on public transit corridors such as here, and the consolidation of development into pre-exisitng towns, If Wicklow Greens want a fight, look at the North Bray Lans USe and Transportation Study, the rampant sprawl proposed in Fassaroe and Old Connaught and the insiduous manner in which transport infrastructure is determined by developers rather than the people.

this is not a perfect development, especially the road layout, but strategically it;s good. The vital element is the linkage between it and the Main Street. Bray is becoming derelict and it needs a massive investment. Next up, travel north and rebuild Dun Laoghaire, which is suffering the same fate

Calling a place ‘Town centre’ is a form of intellectual property theft. It’s really pissing me off. How can any planner sanction this?

its the fact that the bulk of the development is to be placed on a ‘flood plain’ that is causing problems with local groups and the greens, besides no-one in the public has a clue whats happening in old fassaroe!?

it is planned to have tens of thousands of residents (not finalised) and over 15,000 jobs in Fassaroe, or something ludocrous like that. It’s in that study I mentioned. It’s the equivalent of a new Bray.The flood plain is the issue for the development in question, but like I said, it is being addressed.

Frank, one of the conditions in the grant from BTC and DLRCoCo was that it could not be called “town centre”. Now I’ve never seen such a funny condition before and it shows what planners have to put up with from developers, but at least it might put a stop to such nonsense.

This is the perfect example of our times being in thrall to the mighty Euro. Things that are-in effect-glorified shopping centres are touted as “Town Centres”. A town to me is a mixture of the commercial AND the civic. Court Houses, town halls, libraries, post offices,museums, theatres,in short a public realm are what -or at least, part of-what constitutes a town. Not just shops, more shops and yet more shops. But we live in a world that thinks that Woodies,Dunnes,Tescos,off licences,Top Shop,DVD shops, etc etc are what make a town centre. And I live in a town that put a McDonalds into a fine Town hall and reduced it to a mockery.