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    • #708228
      bigjoe
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      I see they have started planting mature tress in the new medium on lower drumcondra road at Binnsbridge. it must be to lull the tourists from the airport into a false sence of security before they hit Dorset Streer. 😀

    • #763063
      Alek Smart
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      Hmmmmm could be,but I suspect it`s to ensure that any further talk of Bus/Rail interchanges at this location is stifled at birth…….or hidden in the undergrowth…. 😮

    • #763064
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      Why would anybody want to stifle it? It seems like a really good idea

    • #763065
      urbanisto
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      Its actually part of a greater scheme to improve the whole route from Drumcondra to the City Centre precisely becase Dorset Street is such a grim dump of a street

    • #763066
      tommyt
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      @StephenC wrote:

      Its actually part of a greater scheme to improve the whole route from Drumcondra to the City Centre precisely becase Dorset Street is such a grim dump of a street

      It isn’t that bad and is a damn site better than it used to be.Jaysus just cuz it doesn’t have a mochafrapucciono joint every 20 yards doesn’t make it a “dump” of a street.Sometimes pple need to watch their language on this forum and be aware they end up sounding really petty and mean minded.

    • #763067
      ctesiphon
      Participant

      Spot on, tommyt. I really like Dorset St precisely because it hasn’t been comprehensively made over- similar to Thomas St in this respect. One of the more mixed areas in Dublin, both community- and service-wise. It could use a bit of tlc, but not full-on gentrification.

    • #763068
      urbanisto
      Participant

      “It isn’t that bad and is a damn site better than it used to be.Jaysus just cuz it doesn’t have a mochafrapucciono joint every 20 yards doesn’t make it a “dump” of a street.Sometimes pple need to watch their language on this forum and be aware they end up sounding really petty and mean minded”

      Agreed. Sorry 😮 What I should say is street life and pedestrians are poorly catered for on the street which is traffic choked most of the time (by its nature). The public domain is ver poor with poor quality paving, lighting etc. There are no trees. Shopfronts are generally of poor quality and there have been some dodgy additions to the street over the past year. What it does have is a very bustling commercial life whihc should be retained and enhanced by a little bit of tlc from the City Council (hence the new trees, paving and lighting at Binns Bridge). Not a dump maybe but certainly not what the pirmary northside route into the city should be. And I would offer the same for North Strand/Amiens Street as well (my route in)

    • #763069
      tommyt
      Participant

      Sorry if I sounded abit narky StephenC. I actually really like Dorset Street so I was sticking up for it! It does need cosmetic work done all right but its mikxture of uses is fine by me.In a way it is a transitional street between the CBD and the inner suburbs so has a lot of potential uses.It reminds me in a way of Queens Boulevard in NYC or Ladbroke Grove in West London.

      Yeah Nrth Strand/Amiens St. is my route into town also and I reckon around the Fire station/Cement factpry has scope for a real “city gateway” type precinct similar to what’s planned around Heuston..

    • #763070
      Alek Smart
      Participant

      Had a closer look at the new Tree Lined Median this day and can report that it does NOT impinge on the ability to route Buses into or out of St Annes Road…In fact it may well enhance that very prospect (Shurley shome Mishtake).
      Dorset St is one helluva street and remains a vibrant place in an earthy and realistic way where good food and drink can be had in honest surroundings at REALISTIC prices and the Bouncers don`t patronize one….IE They are not afraid to refer to U as a whankker rather than attempt to add a “Sir” to the end of it.
      The mix of Pubs and Eateries at the Drumcondra End attract a seriously eclectic mix of the sons and daughters of the Four Green Fields who mix in a reasonably relaxed way with the overseas contingent without having to feature in an Irish Times pull out supplement whilst doing it.
      Instead people of ALL nationalities get on with the business of sourcing bargains at the Street Side market along by the NCR Junction
      You can buy a car.have ur Harley Chopped and ur ass tatoo`d and then take away a Bidet at one end of the street while at the other end U can have ur dentures glued back in (Ref :Bouncer) and get a set of dancin pumps made up whilst selecting a marble fireplace or Headstone for yerself..
      It kinda reminds me of Islington where Traffic,Buses,and the general Hurly Burly all combine in a mad way to make the place attractively alive…This is EXACTLY wat Dublin City Council needs to be encouraging and devoting some effort into doing…..
      Dare I say it but the removal of the Bus Termini from Mountjoy Sq and their reallocation to the Drumcondra Station Grassy Knoll would be a step in the right direction…….and yet and yet……..Not a peep do I hear about givin the thing a try…even for an experimental period……..Out of the Box…Bosco ?? 🙁

    • #763071
      bigjoe
      Participant

      a bus station at the Drumcondra station. Are you mad? I have lived here all my life so I know the area well. there is more or less a 11 hour russ hour on that bit of road as it is.

      now taking abit of land from the bishops palace or the Mater Dei and you could be onto something.

    • #763072
      SeamusOG
      Participant

      That was an excellent post, Alek. It summed up the street perfectly. Also, apart from the features you mention, the top of Dorset Street (North Frederick Street/Blessington Street end), on sunny mornings, plays host to one of the most beautiful views in the city, right across to Thomas Street and the magnificent roof and spire of Thomas Street Church. (St. John and St. Augustine, I think)

      While we’re waiting for the grand transport plan to unfold, the bus/rail interchange idea at Drumcondra might be a really good way to make full use of the station. Maybe even running some Maynooth trains in only as far as Drumcondra, because of the situation at Connolly? Not all trains – just some of them. I’d say there’d still be a lot of takers if there was a really decent bus interchange there. I don’t think there’s a problem with the capacity on the line. I can’t really see how there would be. As I say, it wouldn’t be the best solution, but it might be worth looking at.

    • #763073
      dodger
      Participant

      another thing they could do about the maynooth line would be to open a new station just where that line joins the northern line. Call it Connolly north and run a covered conveyor belt walkway into connolly proper. the distance is about a quarter of a mile and hey presto you can have as many trains as you want from maynooth / dunboyne. Of course nobody who can do something about it has ever thought of it…

    • #763074
      Alek Smart
      Participant

      Yes BigJoe..as mad as a sack of nutty-slack…I too am a Nortsider from not too far away and my suggestion is for a Bus/Rail Interchange which will allow far greater cross-pollination between the Rail an Road commuter while bringing some new footfalls into the area around the station.
      The Station itself could be a new focal point for the place for the spending of a relatively small amount of Euro.
      The aerial pics of the quadrangle formed by DrumCondra Rd,St Annes Road,Whitworth Road and St Patricks road show that presently it is largely utilized as Pay n Display Car parking with some resedential car Parking thrown in for good measure.
      My vision is for the present Railway Embakment or “Grassy Knoll” to be removed and a Bus Stance incorporated into the Station Proper…….Hey…If we can erect a Spire where once a Pillar stood supreme we should be able to make better use of a Grassy Knoll……!!!
      😮

      Try this link for a better view of the area and the general thrust of proceedings.

      http://platform11.hyperboards3.com/index.cgi?action=display&cat=welcome&board=transitplan&thread=1115334725

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