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  • #705323
    GregF
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    Let’s give Bertie, that man of fine eloquence, articulation and pronounciation the No.1 vote this coming election in order to have the National Stadium built….the other candidates surely have to be a No No with their frugality and meaness. I am not a Fianna Fail supporter….no bloody way….with a such a history of political corruption, etc………but they are offering the nation something of substance for future generations in the form of Stadium Ireland.

    #719080
    rob
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    Booo to Bertie. In the coming election, please vote for anyone but Bertie. Go on you know you really want to. You want a public transport system, a heath service that works don’t you.

    There are so many more important things than a stadium like say em HEALTH, EDUCATION, INFASTRUCTURE, CRIME, well everything really! Its just a matter of proitity, really, and yes we all know Lansdowne is completely rubbish beyond comprehension. Sorry GregF, I bet Bertie will run out of money (IF he gets elected) and the stadium won’t get built in the near future.

    #719081
    Rory W
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    If Ahern is re-elected as Taoiseach – which I’m sure he will, then surely he will have to continue with projects such as Luas and the Metro (as well as the bowl). If any of the others get in, then we will get the situation where badly needed things like the metro are taken off the plans again and re-examined (adding years to the timeframe) before it resurfaces as the Michael Noonan Magic Roundabout train line. If there was some consistence in Governments in this country then things might get done for a change.

    Although FFs slogan should be “A lot done – bloody loads more to do”

    #719082
    rob
    Participant

    ahem, it is to my understanding that all parties plan to continue with luas, metro etc. And hasn’t the metro gone through its first planning stage (or was that a FF pre-election hype? twas in around february-ish, i think). It seems to me that it would be silly to not proceed as quick as possible with both as they they already be examined and reexamined since 1991, and remember FF decided to built the luas, then suddenly decided to change their mind and re-release it blah, blah, blah

    #719083
    Luke Gardnier
    Participant

    Consistence in governments……FF have held power here either with a majority or in coalition for nearly 70 years of the state’s 80 year history…also maybe their slogan should be “Only a few DONE a lot more to DO”

    #719084
    Rory W
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    Not that I support FF – I just wish that infrastructure (especially public transport) was actually built and not just talked about.

    Why oh why (Daily Mail bit here) does every change of government involve taking what bit of infrastructure is planned by the last stopping any movement on it (whilst they re-examine it – i.e. rename a few stops on the metro line) and the relaunch the project, usually just before the next change of government, when the process begins again and continues ad nauseum.

    If a company in the private sector operated like this they would have gone to the wall years ago. I think all infrastructure and in particular public transport building should have the politics taken out of it and a company (PPP) with teeth should be given the opportunity to develop it in its entirety – the government should step back and let it run at arms length from the govt. Just make sure they have to do urgent stuff like metro & luas immediately!

    But then again I’m an optimist

    #719085
    rob
    Participant

    Luke, with FF recent record, it really makes me wonder how…

    Todays poles shows an increase in support for FF. When will you people learn…

    #719086
    deepnote
    Participant

    Relax, FF are here to stay. Bertie will get his stadium, 65,000 seats, and let the rest go for the moment. OPW will run the show. Laura, thanks for the memories.

    #719087
    rob
    Participant

    well really deepnote, you surprise me sometimes….

    #719088
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    sorry rob, but i dont think anyone really believes the other lot would have done any better than Bertie and friends…remember the rainbow?? – Labour sound like they have some good policies but were in government for 5 stratight years, first with the F’in F’ers and then with the F’in G-obshites before handing over a crumbling health service / public transport system to the FF/PD coalition – hardly inspires confidence in their ability does it?

    And seing as i mentioned FG…have they been taking something lately ?…between promising to pay kids to stay in school, refunding eircom losses, tripling the first time buyers grant and providing free travel on Dublin Bus between 10 and 4…even i can see that there is no way in hell we could afford such election gimicks.

    I’m happy enough – the Luas tracks are already laid right beside my house and house prices are rocketing in my area as a result 🙂

    I never thought i would vote for FF – I am doing so mainly to keep the Sinn Fein guy out (him and the F’in F’er are neck and neck in the polls) but also because i wan’t to see the National Stadium built.

    Landsdowne is embarressing and whilst it would be nice to have our National Stadium on that site, nobody has addressed the question of where we would play whilst it was being constructed.

    #719089
    fjp
    Participant

    I just wanted to post on behalf of voter apathy. A complete neglect of all Irish newspapers for the last six months and a tendencey to only watch Sky News means that I have no information on the current election.

    And this is a comfortable (though lazy and useless) position to occupy. I tend to find that modern Irish Politics make me feel ashamed and saddened. I just don’t want to vote for any of them, and the individuals that I do recognise as being skilled politicians insist on being members of parties that I slightly detest.

    hmmmmm….

    fjp

    #719090
    deepnote
    Participant

    fjp, I am most gravely concerned about your civic depression, at least get out and vote for someone who will build something

    #719091
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    exactly, whether we like them or not we are the ones who put them there so if your not happy go out and vote for somebody else!!!

    remember, people died so that we could have the right to vote for an irish government in an irish state…

    #719092
    fjp
    Participant

    I do appreciate that people sacrificed their lives for me to vote, hell, my grandfather was one of the fighters.

    But apathy is a strong disease, and the voter variation is strongest.

    fjp

    #719093
    GregF
    Participant

    Well when it all boils down….let’s give Bertie the vote and get the National Stadium built…it’s a chance in a lifetime I suppose…no other party has ever proposed such major civic developments…including the LUAS, the Spire, etc….Bertie is a bit of a Francois Miterand…well kinda…….Dub style.

    #719094
    Rory W
    Participant

    yeah – I can imagine Mitterand with a pint of Bass discussing Man U…….

    #719095
    Sue
    Participant

    Let’s get out and vote for Bertie? Pul-lease. Just because he has this grandiose idea of building a monument to himself in Abbotstown. It’s this kind of woolly thinking that has this country sleepwalking into a Fianna Fail overall majority. And we all know what happened the last time – with rezoning good-oh as Ray Burke and the boys helped themselves.
    Come clean GregF. You sound like a dyed-in-the-wool Fianna Failer rather than someone who really thinks Bertie is good for architecture…

    #719096
    GregF
    Participant

    Well the way I’ve looked on it…..and no way do I support Fianna Fail…..but they did give us Temple Bar….and they are offering us something of architectural substance for the future in the form of Sports Campus Ireland…..We have already won the competion to hold a a major swimming tournament for 2003 with the National Aquatic Centre..and that can’t be bad for the international profile of the nation.

    #719097
    -Donnacha-
    Participant

    I’ll be voting FF in this election too, mainly because of the absolute lack of anything from the opposition parties rather than anything FF have done. To say the opposition has been dire would be to understate the situation. FG are a complete joke, I saw bits of that debate on TV last night and all Baldy Noonan could do was attack the governments record, the guy doen’t seem to have any policies of his own. If he had any political cop-on he could have easily won that debate, but he hasn’t.

    A National Stadium is obviously needed and the knockers don’t seem to have any alternative proposals of their own (typical FG). While FF are far from ideal, they’re the best of a bad lot, plus I think they won’t go into coalition with the anti-everything Greens which is another plus in my book.

    #719098
    GregF
    Participant

    Well the B..B..Bert won……so let’s get that National Stadium built then

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