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    • #711355
      lauder
      Participant

      First Hume Street now Belcamp House. The House and College was destroyed by fire on the night of April 13th.

      Currently owned by Gannon homes, the property had been subject to the scumbag element scavenging the property for scrap, fireplaces, copper etc. Really boils me blood to see this.

      I understand workers employed by the owner to protect the building where physically abused (by our travelling brethren according to those present) and thus were unable to protect the building. Thankfully, the Harry Clarke windows were removed to safety a few weeks ago.

      Some photos post-destruction:
      http://leonotron.com/belcamp/belcamp.html

      Today’s report in the Indo.
      http://www.independent.ie/national-news/arson-attack-guts-listed-building-by-white-house-designer-2620748.html

    • #816767
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      A selection of photos – http://leonotron.com/belcamp/belcamp.html

    • #816768
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Is anything being done to protect the building now? The ceiling of the oval room looks like it has survived

    • #816769
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I don’t know about security – I believe once that Fingal County Council took out the windows they also took away any security they had. I have been told that you would need an army to protect Belcamp. May be we need an army of preservation activists, but who is willing ? Obviously no person or entity in authority is doing anything. So now chaos, ruin and vandalism is added to our economic woes.

      I am involved with the Hume Street Campaign and keeping an eye on things there. The security is light so we worry though being centrally located helps. Waiting on the owner and NAMA to fix the roof by April 29th but don’t have much faith in the long drawn out legal process. We will step up the campaign after that.

      We are in touch with people from the Moore Lane campaign and those concerned with Arldborough House.

      I believe nationwide concerted joined up action is needed: Architects, artists, historians, preservationists, citizens – march from NAMA to the Dail…

      http://www.facebook.com/savehumestreetfromdestruction

    • #816770
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Belcamp was badly damaged by fire before, in 1921. That’s how it ended up with the flat roof and odd chimney stacks.

      I think if we could fix this [admittedly with a dodgy flat roof] in 1921, we ought to be able to fix it again in 2011.

      On the revisiting of the ‘battle of Hume Street’ – and who wouldn’t want to revisit the ’70s – I would like to just point out that there wasn’t a whimper out of anyone when the copper was stripped from the early 18th century cruciform roof of no. 30 Thomas Street [a Liam Carroll/NAMA property], or from no. 23 James Street, a fine, modest, mid 18th century, transitional house that is currently disintegrating in front of our eyes, both of which were inhabited and in good repair two years ago.

      Is this a proper conservation movement you’re proposing, or just another rollicking Georgian romp?

    • #816771
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Report of the original fire.

      [attachment=0:38gmz65e]avanti20fire20kosz1.png[/attachment:38gmz65e]

    • #816772
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Some other photos taken recently

    • #816773
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      hmmm did you add that sky in? very atmospheric

    • #816774
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Love those concrete plank pre-fabs, I bet they didn’t burn down

    • #816775
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @StephenC wrote:

      hmmm did you add that sky in? very atmospheric

      polarising filter

    • #816776
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @gunter wrote:

      On the revisiting of the ‘battle of Hume Street’ – and who wouldn’t want to revisit the ’70s – I would like to just point out that there wasn’t a whimper out of anyone when the copper was stripped from the early 18th century cruciform roof of no. 30 Thomas Street [a Liam Carroll/NAMA property], or from no. 23 James Street, a fine, modest, mid 18th century, transitional house that is currently disintegrating in front of our eyes, both of which were inhabited and in good repair two years ago.

      Is this a proper conservation movement you’re proposing, or just another rollicking Georgian romp?

      I don’t know what you mean by that comment or what “proper conservation movement” you may be interested in perhaps starting yourself

      We are busy at the moment with our campaign.

    • #816777
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      taizy8, I see we’re getting off on the wrong foot, and lets keep it that way.

      @taizy8 wrote:

      I believe nationwide concerted joined up action is needed: Architects, artists, historians, preservationists, citizens – march from NAMA to the Dail…
      http://www.facebook.com/savehumestreetfromdestruction

      I certainly don’t think we need two little bands of grumpy ex-hippies traipsing around the streets looking forlornly for some official conscience to prick, can your little band not just take on-board the endangered houses on Thomas Street and James Street and that would leave me free to lend moral support, which as you know is like real support only you don’t have to do anything.

    • #816778
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @gunter wrote:

      taizy8, I see we’re getting off on the wrong foot, and lets keep it that way.

      @taizy8 wrote:

      I believe nationwide concerted joined up action is needed: Architects, artists, historians, preservationists, citizens – march from NAMA to the Dail…
      http://www.facebook.com/savehumestreetfromdestruction

      I certainly don’t think we need two little bands of grumpy ex-hippies traipsing around the streets looking forlornly for some official conscience to prick, can your little band not just take on-board the endangered houses on Thomas Street and James Street and that would leave me free to lend moral support, which as you know is like real support only you don’t have to do anything.

      By your 1600 + posts I can see you keep pretty busy on the interwebs.

      What ever you may think of my response that we march on the Dail ( which was a first reaction to the Belcamp fire and vandalism) your extremely rude and patronising attitude certainly wouldn’t make me want to cow tow for your special “moral support”. If marching on the Dail was the right thing to do we would have done it long ago – so would protesting out front – but we prefered contacting and talking with politicians and ministers, which we have been doing. And why don’t you do that too ? instead of been rude to people on discussion forms.

      I only got involved in Hume street because I witnessed it first hand. I know there are, many many more instances of neglect. I am not wasting any more time answering to you because you have already decided what you think and lets keep it that way..

    • #816779
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      @taizy8 wrote:

      more or less

      I am not wasting my time with you any more, you are rude and discourteous, extremely rude, rude and patronising.

      I can use the phone and talk to important people, and go outside, why can’t you do that?

      You are a podgy repulsive little man, I’ve seen your sleazy posts. You can’t keep your clammy fingers off the interweb, can you?

      Shut up. I’m not being hysterical.

      Now hold on a minute . . . . . I never said you looked fat

    • #816780
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      You are a podgy repulsive little man, I’ve seen your sleazy posts. You can’t keep your clammy fingers off the interweb, can you?

      I never said you were a podgy repulsive little man sitting in a dark room with the interwebs !! – .. and you never said I looked fat … it was the reference to groupy ex hippies that fired me up.. anyway thanks for the laugh… we need lightening up.

      No point in splitting our support when the real baddies are getting away with it. 🙂

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