B…B…Bertie’s Bowl looks like unmaterializing

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  • #705285
    GregF
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    Bertie’s Bowl may now not go ahead due to the slight recession….after all the hoo-haa etc…….we may now only get a paltry offering of a stadium or maybe nothing at all. Open up Croker then I say to all sports.

    #718770
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    The GAA should be forced to open the stadium especially if they want funding.

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    #718771
    Rory W
    Participant

    Yep and wouldnt we all be better off if they renovated Lansdowne Road instead. No rugby fan in their right mind wants a stadium in one of the most inaccessable parts of Dublin. Lansdowne is a perfect site – just like Murrayfield – 25 minutes walk from the centre of town, DART access – sure you may not be able to park close to the place but maybe the 10 minute walk will do you good.

    #718772
    Po
    Participant

    In today’s Guardian…even the english like Landsdowne…..
    http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,10260,574019,00.html

    #718773
    PaulC
    Participant

    http://www.mapflow.com/webdemo/demomap.asp?click=zoomout&map=transform&x=MzE4MDYy&y=MjMzMTE2&z=MTI%3D&hnme=&hadd=TEFORFNET1dORSBURVJSQUNFLCBCQUxMU0JSSURHRSwgRFVCTElO&hclss=U2VsZWN0

    Just look at this arial picture of Landsdowne Road stadium – I think it is quite evident that even an 80,000 seat stadium could be built on the space available here – the stadium would have to be built perpendicular to the present one. It would be a fantastic stadium in the perfect location and with a retractable roof it would proof to be very popular with all sorts of events.
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    #718774
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    right enuff…. lots of space there… is it all theirs?

    #718775
    PaulC
    Participant

    Yes it is – I think the pitch at the side of the stadium is used by the Landsdowne Club for training and small club matches.

    #718776
    GregF
    Participant

    Looking at the aerial view …there is enough space to rebuild anew at a right angle to whats there now

    #718777
    GregF
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    #718778
    Rory W
    Participant

    Yep – lansdowne own all the land around and there was the plan to turn the Stadium 90 degrees a few years ago. If they go to Blanchardstown with the stadium all the pagentry and tradition will be lost. As the Guardian says one of the best pleasures is the journey to the game – the fact that you can walk from St Stephens green and there are pubs along the way. If you have to drive to the stadium you (a) will have huge jams to sit in (b) will not have a drink because you are driving – this in turn will lead to a loss of the good natured cameraderie and will make the entire event sterile and bland.

    We are not like English Soccer Fans, we don’t get legless and start a fight – part of the tradition of going to a match is to have a few drinks before and after with your friends (a lot of whom you do not get the chance to meet otherwise). If this is the case its yet another sign of the world becoming more anti social.

    Sorry about the rant but I really feel that this is important.

    #718779
    PaulC
    Participant

    I dont think you are ranting at all – I agree entirely and I think a lot of poeple would be of the same opinion. I think I might write a letter into the Irish Times on this.

    #718780
    deepnote
    Participant

    so you think Bertie is giving up? I would not be so sure

    #718781
    GregF
    Participant

    See the Fine Gaelers, Noonan & Co have a more realistic and probably better idea of redeveloping Landsdowne Road…..maybe I’d go with that then instead of the Bertie Bowl, because it being in the city centre…..but a forty -five thousand capacity is far too small….sixty or more would be better in the long run.
    Across the water after rebuilding Old Trafford …they were forever adding on bits to expand it.

    #718782
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Did you read the piece on the archeire frontpage written by the P45 soccer correspondant?

    #718783
    Sue
    Participant

    What’s going on with the stadium, deepnote? You’re usually well informed with the latest gossip!

    #718784
    quirkey
    Participant

    WELL.. infacta…. stall the ball.
    So much effort seems to have gone into this project at the start… and apartemtly little thought about the logistics issue.
    Anywhere else a fast and efficient public transport (both rail and bus) would have been the first thing to go in, rather than here (if we were lucky) the other-way -round kind of thing.
    Seems funny to me, I thought this obvious issue would have brought the project down…. seems now it didnt even need that.

    #718787
    ro_G
    Participant

    not forgetting the curling! check out the irish curling association’s fixture list
    http://freespace.virgin.net/christine.furey/events.htm

    #718788
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Originally posted by ro_G:
    not forgetting the curling! check out the irish curling association’s fixture list

    you and your curling

    #718785
    ro_G
    Participant

    there is also the need for ancillary sports that were going to be catered for by bertiebowl. e.g. an ice rink.

    It’s fairly difficult skating on the carpet in Des Kelly’s Ice Rink on the NCR and the horses grazing in Dolphin’s Barn Rink make it very difficult for associations like the Irish Ice Hockey Association or the Irish Curling Association to organize any events.

    The Oddyssey in Belfast is something we should be looking to in any Bertie’s Bowels discussions. They are maintaing regular crowds at the Ice Hockey and Southern Ireland is well overdue some investment on non Soccer/Gaa/Rugby spectator sports.

    and i want to go to the winter olympics in 2006 so….
    http://www.odysseyarena.com/technicalinformation-sportsplans.asp

    #718786
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I agree, would love to see a proper ice hockey arena so Dublin can have the franchise for the UK hockey league that is reportedly there for the city, if we get our act together.

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