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      Cathal Dunne

      I’m a Lucanian, where the monster housing development Adamstown is being put upon us its very much of a live issue. I’ve been on the website and it says that the Adamstown SDZ will be built in 10-15 years. At the rate that they’re building it beside the Newcastle Road and in the interior I really do think it’ll be built in this decade. Anyone else have any info on this? I really do feel that the rate they’re building will have it sorted by 2010.

    • #784630

      it’s in phase 1B now i think, slightly ahead of schedule. Latest news is that there’ll be c100 residents by xmas, the application for the district centre will probably be in by then as well, The rail station is to open in Spring 2007 and at least 1 school, primary, should be open by sept 07… the project appears to be going well, especially considering the degree of coordination involved. it will really begin to take hold this time next year as up to 1000 people move in and it will become a true community… For more up to date info, i suggest contacting your local councillor. They’re very heavily involved in the project as far as i can tell…

    • #784631

      It appears to be flying along at a glance. But the building started first beside the newcastle road, there is still all the way back to the other side of lucan to go. right back to the other side of tandys lane. it will still be a while, maybe a slight bit ahead of plans

    • #784632

      I’m dragging up a very old thread but this relates to Adamstown and I think that the contrast between the old comments above and this news story is interesting!

      Appeal against plans to double ratio of houses to apartments in Adamstown

      An appeal against plans which could double the proportion of houses to apartments built in Adamstown in west Dublin has been heard by An Bord Pleanála.
      South Dublin County Council is proposing to lower the density of development in Adamstown by 20 per cent to allow more houses in response to the “near cessation” of construction in the new suburb.
      The Adamstown Strategic Development Zone (SDZ) was created in 2003 with the aim of delivering more than 10,000 homes, schools, shops, community and leisure facilities and public transport.
      So far, fewer than 1,400 homes have been built, and since 2008/2009 development has “almost ceased” with fewer than 20 residential units completed in the last four years, said the council. No development has started on the district centre which was to have a supermarket, library, cinema and healthcare centre, or on the leisure centre and swimming pool.
      Planning permission has been granted for nearly 3,250 homes, almost 40 per cent of which were apartments, 32 per cent duplex units and less than 30 per cent houses.
      Alteration to plan
      However, only 28 per cent of apartments permitted were actually built, compared to almost 50 per cent of houses and 56 per cent of duplexes.
      “It is evident that permitted duplexes and houses in Adamstown were almost twice as likely to be built and occupied than permitted apartments,” the council said.
      Amending the SDZ to reduce densities by 20 per cent will still deliver 6,655 to 8,145 homes, said the council, but 66 per cent would be houses and the remaining 34 per cent would be apartments and duplex units.
      Residents groups told the hearing they were opposed to the density changes. Folasade Bello of the Adamstown Residents’ Board said a “traditional housing set up” would not sustain the infrastructure proposed.
      Brian Murray of the Adamstown Planning Action Group said Adamstown was not a ghost town and there was no need to panic by changing the original SDZ plan.
      “Certain sectors want to rush back to crazy housing building which got us into trouble in the first place,” he said.
      Resident Michelle Uí Bhuachalla said: “West Dublin doesn’t need more three-bed semi-detached houses which seems to be why these changes are being put forward.”
      The delivery of facilities and infrastructure by developers was dependent on the numbers of housing units built. The council also wants to amend the SDZ to reduce the number of units needed for facilities to be built and to speed up the infrastructure provision.
      Chartridge Developments, which represents three major Adamstown landowners, Castlethorn Construction, Maplewood Developments and Tierra Ltd, has appealed to An Bord Pleanála not to allow this change.
      Landowner claims
      It says the council should use development levies already paid to built facilities.
      More than €15.5 million has already been paid in levies, most of which had been used by the council to fund facilities outside Adamstown, said the developer.
      Forcing it to accelerate infrastructure and community facilities would delay the delivery of residential development and didn’t take into account current market conditions. Chartridge also maintains that reducing the density also reduced the infrastructure needed for the development.

      What are the council doing? Should the long term design of a major new town be impacted by such short-term economic conditions? Fair play to the residents – I’d agree with everything they’re saying.

    • #784633

      Adamstown might have been sold to people as a, ‘major new town’, but it is not and nor was it ever conceived to be. it is a dormitory town.

      Dormitory towns, by definition, have minimal facilities because it is inherently understood that the majority of the residents of a dormitory town will only ever be in the place in the evenings and at the weekends.

      There is no excuse for Adamstown, its existence at all is an indictment of the failure to plan the expansion of Dublin through the reinforcement and densification of the core areas. That the great and the good of the architectural profession were only too willing to get on-board the Adamstown express is a sure indication of just how wafer thin is our attachment to urban principles, when it comes right down to it.

      That parts of Adamstown may be well designed and may even be pleasant to live in is not the point. If there’s one major European city that doesn’t have the density to support its own threadbare infrastructure, it is Dublin. And that’s without haemorrhaging yet more households to a peripheral townland whose only recommendation is that it adjoins a railway line and is owned by a consortium of property speculators.

      Arguing about the density of Adamstown is about as useful as checking the air pressure of the spare tyre on a car that’s already been written off.

    • #784634

      Indeed….but then the supposed solution is also part of the problem. In Dublin, political, administrative and planning careers are actually built on opposing and truncating. Its a perfect storm really, and while they fiddle and tinker Dublin, spreads and spreads and spreads and streams and etc etc etc.


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