27 storey tower for Drogheda
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@mickeydocs wrote:
Drogheda also has very many factors that go against it. There is no third level college in the town. There is a serious crime problem. The drug problem is also well out of hand. Traffic problems are excessive for such a small town. Water quality is awful. Amenities are very limited. The cultural life of the town is noticeable by its absence. The prices in the town for property and for general goods is scandalous.
Drogheda’s potential is entirely based on proximity to Dublin. It is already a dormitory town and this will only be accentuated by developments such as the proposed 23 storey appartment block.
Comparing Drogheda to Fremantle gave me a laugh. Bettystown doesn’t actually compare with the beaches of western australia 🙂
BTW, have you been to Fremantle?Ah it’s not that bad – show me a town in Ireland that doesn’t suffer from most if not all of these problems.
The apartment block is only part of the development, it’s the facilities (bars restaurants and shops which are attractive for retaining people and shops within the town. Its far better that development goes on close to the heart of the old town rather than out be the M1 don’t you think. By taking a gamble and pulling good quality shops bars and restaurants into what could be a good looking town (close to ports and airports and located between Dublin and Belfast) further investment (including aforementioned Japanese/American firm) could follow.
My point about Perth/Freemantle was based more on distance and flows between the two (I was there and Freeo is quaint & pretty compared with Drogheda but with a bit of work and a lot of imagination….)
What has the local reaction been towards the scheme?
That building really would put Drogheda on the map and it is about time we started to go up instead of out in this country. This skyscraper of a building looks like the kind of building that would look good in a few years not like Ballymun.
Following extensive discussions with Drogheda Boro Council, Edward Holdings’ SPV Talebury Limited has submit revised plans in response to Further Information to the council’s Planning Department. Among the changes, included is a reduction in Tower 1’s height by 1-floor (26 storeys over podium) and a reduction in unit numbers from 178 to 101.
that doesn’t sound too bad actually. normally they chop off a lot more than 1 storey. say 10 or 12 storeys. look at the smithfield development. wasn’t that meant to be 23 storeys?
:confused: Am I missing something here? I really can’t see the point of reducing a building by just a single storey. Have you ever looked at a building and thought “Thank God that building was reduced in height slightly, otherwise it would be blight on the landscape etc.?”.
It seems to me like the thinking is, “Well we like this development, but we cant possibly let it go through the planning process unscathed”….”Ok, chop a storey off then, after all we HAVE to have some sort of height reduction.”I really wonder if Drogheda’s planning department gave any thought to traffic disruption. The area is already a disaster in relation to traffic flow. There will be mayhem when SHE is opened in November. Surely there were better sites available for this project.
@mickeydocs wrote:
I really wonder if Drogheda’s planning department gave any thought to traffic disruption. The area is already a disaster in relation to traffic flow. There will be mayhem when SHE is opened in November. Surely there were better sites available for this project.
Given the fact it is within walking distance (actual walking distance not estate agent walking distance) from the existing town centre is surely a good site, it can contribute to the town day and night (hotel, cinema, riverside bars, restaurants, apartments etc) and not be stuck in some godforsaken road on the outskirts of the town like Liffey Valley which contributes a cinema after dark and thats it. Sure there will probably be some delays accessing the centre by car in November, but probably no worse than getting into the car parks on Dyer St at present.
Thats an impressive piece of architechture and will mean a world of good for Drogheda if it is built. Last time I saw the town, it was covered in a layer of rubbish. But I have to say that that building, in my opinion would be better suited to a city where it would stand among other tall buildings and contrribute more to the skyline. The whole development has a sense of lighthouse in the middle of a bog about it.
P.S. Bog is used to illustrate the stand alone nature of the development, not as an reference to Drogheda.(Though some may consider otherwise) 😀
@PTB wrote:
Thats an impressive piece of architechture and will mean a world of good for Drogheda if it is built. Last time I saw the town, it was covered in a layer of rubbish. But I have to say that that building, in my opinion would be better suited to a city where it would stand among other tall buildings and contrribute more to the skyline. The whole development has a sense of lighthouse in the middle of a bog about it.
P.S. Bog is used to illustrate the stand alone nature of the development, not as an reference to Drogheda.(Though some may consider otherwise) 😀
You are right PTB. It is very impressive. I would love to see that being built in Dublin alongside a few other highrises but i guess Dublin can’t have it all.
@Rory W wrote:
Ah don’t be greedy lads!!!
Attached is a revised image of the development
Revised? It’s a completely different building. I prefer the original.
That is truely ghastly
Original Scotch Hall Tower 27-storey Proposal
Revised 26-storey ProposalDeveloper: Edward Holdings (Talebury Limited)
Architects: Douglas WallaceI can’t say I’m not disappointed. 🙁
i must say that revised plan is truly awful. why can’t they just stick with the original? the original is a billion times better. the revised plan certainly does look like a failed u2 proposal. yuck. i’m not even going to pass a comment about the colour. 🙁
i really don’t understand why they can’t just remove the 1 storey from the original plan. build the original but just build it at 26 storeys instead. that would be way, way better. i am sooooo disappointed and i really can’t see why they have to come up with a totally new proposal.
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