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@markpb wrote:

It integrates the way people in every other city expect it to – you can get from A to B without leaving the rail system. The Dart Interconnector plan also integrates this way by splitting the Dart line in two. Is that unacceptable to you too?.

But it does not link anything up that already exists; for €2bn it needs to create significant capacity; when you add up what it connects the alternative methods of providing connections to Ballymun, The Airport and Swords come in at half the price. It is effectively one line and to spend an extra billion building a link between Ballymun and Swords is a complete waste of money that is unjustifiable.

@markpb wrote:

More importantly, it integrates in a way that allows connections but keeps the operation simple. Most modern metros have dedicated tracks and fleet per line to reduce the impact of a single line failure on other paths. .

Can you run Dart or Luas down it? It in no way allows for diverting other existing routes; it doesn’t even reconnect with the Northern Line or connect with any existing Dart Line.

@markpb wrote:

Why exactly is it far superior?.

Because if you are going from any point West of the City to the Airport the alternative involves no change; from any point South on Dart the change would take place at Pearse vs Drumcoundra (no benefit either way. From Luas South going to Ballymun, there be no change at all. Getting on in the City Centre going to Ballymun it would all be street level.
Give anyone a choice of being able to avoid going underground on a route from Stephens Green to Droumcoundra, very few would elect to go underground.

@markpb wrote:

I can easily. The other rail tracks (Dart, Suburban and Luas) that it connects with allow plenty of onward travel choices that cover a large part of the city. Yes, it’s a pity that places like Terenure aren’t covered but they will be in time. You can’t expect them to build a single metro line that covers the entire city. It would be unacceptably expensive. This is a good start..

Places like Terenure will be covered by Luas; like Metro North the population density along the route is too low to justify underground.

@markpb wrote:

The RPA are currently tendering several contracts for a new integrated travel card that will, on lauch, work on Dublin Bus, Irish Rail and Luas. Metro will be covered when it opens.

We discussed intergrated ticket systems in 2004; if it takes 5 years and counting to deliver technology as simple as Octopus / Oyster you really have to wonder how these people were allowed near a multi-billion euro project.

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