Old Church on Jones Road Dublin 3
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- October 16, 2008 at 3:00 pm #804147
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Inactive@Rory W wrote:
How about being put in the clink until the rebuild is complete – that would put a stop to their gallop and they’d be pretty damn prompt about getting the rebuild done
I was wondering about that: since an enforcement order was served, he is in contempt, ideally he should be put in prison until his contempt is discharged.
October 16, 2008 at 3:14 pm #804148admin
KeymasterAside from Archers garage & Handel’s Arch, are ther any other noteworthy cases where DCC forced a re-build ??
October 19, 2008 at 12:38 pm #804149Anonymous
InactiveWe now have names… Bastards 😡
Council assessing plan for damaged church
STEVEN CARROLL
DUBLIN CITY Council says it is in discussion with the “reputed owner” of a former Methodist Church in the north city that was partly demolished without permission earlier this week.
The front and left side of the building, on Jones’s Road in Dublin 3, had been razed by JCBs on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, and the works rendered the building unsafe in the opinion of the council.
A spokeswoman for the council said the reputed owner has been in discussion with its building inspector and has submitted a proposal that is being assessed to ascertain if it will make the building safe. The council issued an enforcement notice demanding the reinstatement of the former church and schoolhouse and its railings, as well as the cessation of unauthorised demolition on the site.
John Reilly, buildings inspector with the council, said the structure was not a listed building, but since new rules were introduced in June, permission was required to demolish an industrial building greater than 100sq m.
He said planning permission for its demolition probably would have been granted, but an attempt had clearly been made to circumvent the process. The building is about 400sq m. It dates back to 1881 and, until a fortnight ago, was used as a leather-furniture salesroom called Leather Land.
The enforcement notice was issued by the council to Leather Land and Adrian McNally, who is listed as a director of Leather Imports, based in Navan, Co Meath, which is the owner of Leather Land. Attempts by The Irish Times to contact Mr McNally yesterday were unsuccessful.
Deputy Lord Mayor of Dublin Emer Costello branded the partial demolition a tragedy and said she would be in favour of a prison sentence for those responsible.
© 2008 The Irish Times
October 28, 2008 at 12:41 pm #804150Anonymous
InactiveThese are much too big but I can’t get them down for some reason
October 28, 2008 at 2:14 pm #804151Anonymous
InactiveJust copying this here as it’s probably more relevant to this thread:
@ctesiphon wrote:
Stephen- that was my original understanding, but apparently it’s not as clear-cut as that, according to some people more knowledgeable than I who I spoke to on the matter of demolition. The advice I got was simply to check the most up-to-date version of the Regs for guidance.
Also, I’m not sure if this was an actual Proposed Protected Structure, or whether it was a proposed Proposed Protected Structure, i.e. had proceedings commenced to evaluate its merits with a view to adding it to the RPS, or had it just been mooted? This needs to be clarified. If the latter, then the (P)PS law wouldn’t apply.
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I’d argue that PP should be required for all demolition, and therefore episodes such as this one wouldn’t arise so often. In addition, a better resourced grants structure would be a great help. The boom years seemed to sideline much rational debate in this regard in the rush to develop; sadly, I fear the quiet years will lead to a “Sure it’s development, it’s jobs ferchrissakes!” attitude instead of a chance to reflect on the role of these ‘barriers to development’ in the urban landscape.
October 28, 2008 at 3:28 pm #804152Anonymous
Inactive‘Holy Disgrace’!
Even Robin is now getting involved in the urban debate:)
September 8, 2009 at 7:59 pm #804153Anonymous
InactiveSorry to refresh a stale thread, but I still feel angry about this. Does anyone know if the council is going to compel the fumble in a greasy till merchant to rebuild it?
October 2, 2009 at 9:59 pm #804154Anonymous
InactiveSorry to refresh a stale thread, but I still feel angry about this. Does anyone know if the council is going to compel the fumble in a greasy till merchant to rebuild it?
Looks like the “greasy till merchant” wants to knock it completely as exempted development
October 3, 2009 at 4:33 pm #804155Anonymous
InactiveIs it worthwhile writing to the local councillors asking them to intervene?
October 3, 2009 at 8:39 pm #804156Anonymous
Inactive@pdosullivan wrote:
Is it worthwhile writing to the local councillors asking them to intervene?
It is well worth the effort.
October 3, 2009 at 10:49 pm #804157Anonymous
InactiveIs it worthwhile writing to the local councillors asking them to intervene?
If Bord Pleanala approve demolition I’ll be the first to lead a mob with flaming torches down to Marlborough St.
Councillors cannot intervene in an ABP deliberation, but should be instructing the City Manager to take all steps to prevent further damage and prosectution of the individuals responsible.
October 4, 2009 at 11:00 am #804158Anonymous
InactiveThanks for the feedback, I will prepare a considered submission to the local reps.
June 11, 2010 at 6:50 pm #804159Anonymous
InactiveSorry to drag this up but the place has been of interest to me lately. Does this mean that it won’t be knocked?
I took a look around there yesterday and got some pictures of what it’s like now.
June 11, 2010 at 7:02 pm #804160Paul Clerkin
Keymasterdespite the obvious – it looks in pretty good condition considering
June 11, 2010 at 9:34 pm #804161Anonymous
InactiveYes, it is in fairly good shape. It should not take too much effort to put it back the way it was.
June 12, 2010 at 10:34 am #804162admin
KeymasterWith its proximity to Croker I’m gobsmacked that a leisure use of the existing was never the favoured option if not the only viable option. If this were used as a mezz level Gym and a ground floor bar it would be an utter goldmine and some element of planning gain could be realised by giving use of a section of the bar for day time community events to get the very vocal local residents on side.
July 8, 2011 at 2:32 pm #804163Anonymous
InactiveSounds like bad news.
Demolition of landmark church near Croke Park ‘is legal’ – court
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/demolition-of-landmark-church-near-croke-park-lsquois-legalrsquo-ndash-court-2816107.htmlMen within their rights to have church building demolished
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0708/1224300301244.htmlNovember 22, 2013 at 6:58 pm #804164Anonymous
InactiveSeems this church has had another piece of bad luck!
http://www.thejournal.ie/fire-dublin-church-1186747-Nov2013/
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/blaze-destroys-church-near-croke-park-29775550.htmlNovember 24, 2013 at 8:51 pm #804165Anonymous
InactiveIt was not, by any chance, on a bank holiday?
November 25, 2013 at 3:12 pm #804166Paul Clerkin
KeymasterWhy are we not surprised?
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