New Appartment Blocks
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I know certain architects that insist in designing with minimum dimensions, ALWAYS!
I agree that for tax designated areas (urban) i.e. ‘in town’ apartments don’t need to be huge as the location is luxury enough – this doesn’t mean that they ‘have to be’ minimum either – but there is absolutely no reason why this minimum sizes should be used in suburban areas, where an apartment should be an affordable alternative to a house and it shoud compensate for things like not having a garden, not being able to extend,having to go up stairs to get to your front door, etc. Apartments shouldn’t be seen as the only option for the poor people that can’t afford a house! -and forger about the investors for a second, thanks to bacon they should be out of the equation-. An apartment should have something to offer and make potential buyers think about the option, a big apartment or a small house; but for this to happen they should really be similar in what they are offering and at the moment apartments in the suburbs are being designed almost as a last resource not as something people would like to consider a home.
In terms of the looks of the buildings, like any other piece of architecture it should reflect the situation in which it’s set (social, economical, cultural) and not trying to copy georgian or provencal or arts and crafts, or any of those … well gone styles, We are living the early years of the 21st century and the architecture of our town should reflect the way we do it in the best way, and I don’t think that the situation now nor the way we live is the same as it was in the 18th or 19th c.
Who are these architects that always deign in minimum dimensions?
I dont know any architects who ALWAYS design with minimum dimensions. Some may design with minimum dimensions when the client (developer) demands it.
Goergian architecture is a style with wonderful proportions and can be sucessfully built today if wanted. Look at the reinstatment of Mountjoy Sq.The apartments inside may be squat and badly built, but the square has become again, one of Dublins finest Squares.
Also, Irish Georgian is a unique style, indiginous to ourselves, if anyone is looking for a facet of Irish architecture from the past, look no further.[This message has been edited by MK (edited 17 October 2000).]
Didn’t Frank Lloyd Wright favour having the ceiling within arms reach? Thought it was more ‘organic’ or something?
Must say – he was a beautiful artist.
Le Corbusier designed La Tourette with the rooms for junior monks the equivalant width of the outstretched human span, and those for the senior monks the equivalant of the outstretched human span plus the width of a book(for a bookshelf), mind you, that was a monastery
Ha Ha!
Funny, the average human being is getting bigger with each generation.
Does that mean that Wrights ceilings will have to get higher now.
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I have nothing against minimum sizes, I think you need to handle these in the best way possible so you can use the extra space somewhere else. But I think it should be the architects decision to allocate them and not follow developers instructions blindly and make them all small.
I think the main conscern for any designer should be to provide the best possible environment for the occupiers to live in comfort, after that, the developers requests.
Well the actual problem sprung from the fact that the government set out MAXIMUM sizes for the Section 32 apartments back in the 1980s, once the developers say what people would accept they kept making them small.
Thought i’d revive an old thread rather than start a new one. There are plenty of threads for new high rise apartment blocks in Dublin, but not for new low-mid rise ( i.e. 4-6 storey) developments.
Here are some pics of “The Grange” a new development at the junction of Brewery road and the Stillorgan dual carriageway. The density is pretty impressive especially when you compare it to the surrounding housing estates in the aerial shot.
Thats great to see jackwade. If all of Dublin was like that we would have apartment prices of affordability for most Dubliners. Hopefully this kind of density development will be extended city wide and we all wave good bye to Semi-D’s
It certainly looks good but I imagine that the heavy mature trees would block a great deal of sunlight/daylight from the squar(ish) block on the right??
How likely is it that this will be built in that way?
@publicrealm wrote:
It certainly looks good but I imagine that the heavy mature trees would block a great deal of sunlight/daylight from the squar(ish) block on the right??
How likely is it that this will be built in that way?
It is being built as we speak. To back up Anto’s point, the surrounding hoardings certainly dont indicate that these are to be affordable in any way.
The Grange is the mixed development site that Quinlan Private bought for about 30 mill in 2000 and sold for about 90 mill last year. It was the highest price for housing land at the time. Kept the Foxrock fannies talking for a coffee morning or two. Of course it is Affordable, if you work for (or preferably own) a bank! I
They are indeed marketing themselves as an exclusive, upmarket development. They even have a concierge service. For anyone interested the website is here : http://www.thegrange.ie
BTW, i think the blurb on the hoardings is cringeworthy in the extreme. “The spirit of gracious living” – anyone care to explain what exactly that means?
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