LUAS in Harcourt Street (Update No.8)

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  • #737782
    JJ
    Participant

    The old stonework from Connolly was apparently taken to the Red Cow where it was sorted and the facings for re-use were cut off and stacked. Nobody seems to know what will happen to the left-over stone.

    JJ

    #737783
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Has any timescale been given for the extension to the point depot, or is Connolly going to be the Terminus into the forseable future?

    #737784
    JJ
    Participant

    I was at an open day last week in the National College of Ireland about Line C1. The proposed timetable is construction in 2006 with opening in 2007. However this very much depends on a number of other factors including Spencer Dock, The Macken Street Bridge and the Point Village. It also assumes the Inquiry go’s well and approval is given early on.

    There’s info and a couple of photomontages on the IFSC web site.

    http://www.ifsconline.ie

    BTW the Luas web site is finally being updated with recent construction news and some new images.

    JJ

    #737785
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I really can’t see them constructing any Luas line in a year. It will be a case of Jan 2006 construction opening December 2007 I think with the usual extra two years of delays bringing us into 2009.

    I think Spencer Dock will be on time, treasury’s work usually is but it is the usual checks and balances such as archaelogy that they should be doing now.

    To blame those kinds of things for the hold ups are a joke

    But all that said it will be great to see the network being rolled out on a phased basis.

    #737786
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Cars to be banned from Harcourt St due to Luas

    Private cars are to be banned from using Harcourt Street in Dublin to access St Stephen’s Green, due to road space pressures arising from Luas, The Sunday Business Post has learned.

    Plans are under way to allow only public transport – the Luas light rail system, buses and taxis – to access Saint Stephen’s Green via Harcourt Street. The move will close an important access route into the city, causing major inconvenience to private cars travelling to the city centre from the south side.

    The radical traffic restrictions planned by the Quality Bus Network are aimed at curbing bottlenecks west of Stephen’s Green where the Sandyford line will terminate.

    #737787
    notjim
    Participant

    wires up in part of harcourt street, its great, like being in the past or in europe or something.

    #737788
    niall murphy
    Participant

    Any updates or photos of the week in the pipeline Gabriel? Also this is off topic but what is the time frame for the bus colour change? Say in 6 months what’ll the situation be? and are new buses being delivered in the new livery this year?

    I heard on radio this morning that the mayor is to lay the last piece of track on the current luas project today at connolly? I wonder will he tell them off like he did the o’connell street guys!!!

    Also there has been no mention of what will happen when the 2 lines open. Will work commence on the next part of the network, or will the government spend years evaluating it before saying they cant afford more??

    What stages are preparations for other line construction at? Planning, design etc…

    #737789
    GrahamH
    Participant

    I’ve never been in a car in Harcourt St before, but it is absolute hell on the bus at five in the evening.
    The amount of times half of the 14A & the 15s empty at the Garda Station for the sake of saving 10/15 minutes sitting on Harcourt St.
    I think it would be a good thing to banish private cars, although the effect on traffic elsewhere I don’t know…

    #737790
    Gabriel-Conway
    Participant

    Niall,

    I’m on nights this week, I’ll try hard to get another update online by the weekend.

    As regards the livery change for Dublin Bus, this is due to take 3 years, as the resprays are only being done as part of the existing 3-year rolling refurb programme (i.e. each bus will get refurbished and repainted when 3, 6, 9 and 12 years old – there are a few odd exceptions).

    See http://www.allaboutbuses.com/40130-dbrook.html for a photo-feature showing what is involved in this. ( to the uninitiated this kind of work on a 3-year cycle may seem like a waste of money, however bear in mind that during this period the bus may have clocked up a quarter of a million miles)

    Repaints proper started at the end of December, there are now 28 vehicles in the new livery, the aim being 330 out of the total fleet of 1060 by the end of the year, plus the 36 new double-deckers on order so far for 2004.

    Gabriel

    #737791
    GrahamH
    Participant

    Great coverage Gaberiel.
    About the seating – it’s something that’s annoyed me recently, the way the distinctive green seating is now gone on new buses, and is being gradually replaced on the older models. Hence all of the buses’ interiors are becoming very bland and lacking in identity, with that standard blue covering with the coloured dashes spattered over it, just like every city bus, tourist coach, or local minibus in the UK or the rest of this country.

    The idea of having a distinctive identity for the buses’ interiors has gone out the window, which is a great shame.
    Whereas the old green is now dated, it was originally very contemporary and well thought out, from the wall finishes to the seating covers, and hence was very effective – just like DART.
    The capital’s bus service deserves better than off the shelf, ‘anywhere’ design.

    #737792
    blue
    Participant

    Gaberiel has some new photos up. The good sized crowd shows the interest in the Luas, I think its going to be very popular once it gets going.

    I wonder has a tram crossed the nine arches yet. Can’t wait to see this.

    #737793
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    great to see the people out

    #737794
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    i got notification in the door about the line b testing, saying that the first test was to run as far as beechwood (ranelagh) so yep it should have passed over the nine arches …

    pretty poor coverage on the 1 o’clock news about it passing over the taney bridge …

    the longer trams on line b look pretty impressive …

    #737795
    Gabriel-Conway
    Participant

    . . and there I was just about to rush on here all breathless and announce I had these new photos up (within an hour of the event) and you beat em to it!

    Wonderful atmosphere at Windy Arbour today, lots of cheering and chanting, everybody enjoyed themselves.

    I picked this location as with the Minister being at Dundum station, a normal pleb like me wouldn’t get within shouting distance to take photos . . .

    The full article is at http://www.allaboutbuses.com/luas/40211-btrial.html

    Gabriel

    #737796
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0211/luas.html

    (16:55) “The first Luas tram crossed the new bridge at Taney Cross in Dundrum in Dublin today. It is the first test run of the Luas on the new suspension bridge.

    The new line is scheduled to go into service in June and the level of activity on the line between Sandyford and St Stephen’s Green will increase dramatically as the roll-out of the Luas approaches.

    The line follows the path of the historic Harcourt Street Line which closed in 1958. The running time between Sandyford and St Stephen’s Green is 22 minutes. Trams will travel in both directions every five minutes at peak times.”

    Well done Gabriel ahead of the posse yet again

    #737797
    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster
    #737798
    urbanisto
    Participant

    test

    #737799
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    no mention of it crossing the nine arches then ? I assume it did, if it was going to beechwood ???

    #737800
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I got confused by that picture in the indo as well
    “Luas trams negotiate an incline at Beechwood Avenue in Ranelagh on its return journey to Sandyford depot yesterday as the old Harcourt line saw action for the first time since 1958”

    The picture was of the Taney Bridge :confused:

    #737801
    kingpin976
    Participant

    The two old ladies who were on the test run yesterday who remembered the Harcourt line were actually 19 yrs old when the Luas began construction!

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