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    • #704859
      Anonymous
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      I’m not aware of any plans, but can anyone tell me if there is anything underway regarding cleaning up the walls of the Liffey? I was walking across the Y2K bridge while the tide was low, and I noticed how disgusting the inner walls and floor of the Liffey were (that’s no newsflash to Dubliners of course). Has anyone noticed the portion of the quay walls connecting up to the Ha’penny and Millenium Bridges – the colour of the Granite is absolutely beautiful, and can you imagine what it would do for the city’s appearance if the whole quayside area consisted of this beautiful granite, and not the presently grimey stone that has some 8,000 years of dirt on it….
      If the Irisg Georgian Society want a feather in their cap, I can’t think of a single more worthy project for their attention. ok so the walls aren’t georgian…. the feel of the quayside area could be considered as such.

    • #714714
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I totally agree; the quay walls are absolutely filthy.Also I hope they are not going to put that new boardwalk thing up over the dirt,but as stupidity is rife they probably will.

    • #714715
      Clarke Shane
      Participant

      The Liffey boardwalk idea is a complete dinky toy-town effort. I have heard nothing but criticism of the idea and believe that the powers that be should have the good sense to back down from it. Continue the excellent work along the campshires certainly but this boardwalk would do nothing other the clutter a narrow river.

    • #714716
      Rory W
      Participant

      They have been boring holes for the supports for the boardwalk along the quays over the last month or so, so I think its going ahead. But I totally agree about the walls being cleaned, just look at the difference between Queen Street Bridge where it has been cleaned and the quay wall which is the same material.

      Mind you I always thought that they should build a weir down at the East Link and keep the water level in the Liffey at a decent height. Now that would be a Millenium project!!!!

      Rory W

    • #714717
      Anonymous
      Participant

      couldn’t agree more about the weir thing, the Liffey actually looks alright when the tide is in…snowballs chance in hell though

    • #714718
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      A weir under Matt Talbot bridge would be a fine idea…. picture a full Liffey with cleaned quay walls…. excellent…. there was a really low tide last week which just left mud and rubbish in the river bed….

    • #714719
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Paul – how about posting a pic of Jim Horan’s millennium weir proposal (circa late 1996) ?

    • #714720
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      never seen an image of that….

    • #714721
      Anonymous
      Participant

      it was published in the times at the time by frank MacDonald and is included in his new book……but it’s pretty shite.

    • #714722
      Rory W
      Participant

      Never even heard of that one!! Sounds interesting though.

      Rory W

    • #714723
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Yes the article was in the Irish Times, march 5th 97.
      “Imagine the River liffey with no wiff at low tide, no used tyres, old prams, stolen Bicycles and super market trolleys rising out of the slimey mud. Imagine the city strech of the river, from island bridge to the custom house in the sunlight, with amsterdam-style water buses chugging beneath the bridge……”

      it also states a barrage was created around 1220 at island bridge by monks which still survives, and in the 18 cen. on was proposed for Ringsend. in 1975 when Matt Talbot was being designed Conn Sheehan proposed that a weir be incorporated in the Bridge. But a report by ESB said it was “not practical”

      Irteresting ” Mr. Horan belives it would even be feasible to HANG a series of walkways from the Quay Walls …”

      moderator note: i was asked to correct this to get the image to show

      [This message has been edited by Paul Clerkin (edited 14 May 2000).]

    • #714724
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Looks good, great way of incorporating a pedestrian crossing aswell, but I somehow like the variety of the liffey’s level rising on falling. I don’t think hiding the ribbish is reason enough for a barrage. A more proactive approach to cleaning mite be a better idea.

    • #714725
      Rory W
      Participant

      I think Its a great idea, the water taxis and all that would be great and help give the Liffey the emphesis that it deserves. I agree that something should be done about keeping the Liffey clean.

      Rory W

      Also the Pedestrian crossing between the IFSC and Lombard Street East, a very handy short cut!!!

    • #714726
      John
      Participant

      On a different story, does anyone know what is being done on Grattan Bridge at the moment

    • #714727
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Now maybe I’d say it was the gear and equipment belonging to the builder boys who are erecting the Liffey boardwalk.

    • #714728
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I think they’re building some book stand/market space thingy, looks like its going to be quite substantial cause its taking them ages.

    • #714729
      trace
      Participant

      Regarding Andy’s original comment about cleaning the quay walls, Jim Barrett (City Architect) had a letter in the Irish Times on April 5, 2000. Entitled ‘Litter in the Liffey’, it included the promise, “be reassured that the Corporation will soon remove the kelp from the quay walls. Besides being unsightly, this undermines the stability of the stonework. A more general cleaning of the quay walls is also planned.”

    • #714730
      MG
      Participant

      Capel St Bridge Bookmarket

    • #714731
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Surely at present there is underway an ‘expansion’ of the city centre eastwards.Would it not therefore be unfortunate to create a split in the Liffey at the present edge of the citycentre,cutting off this new part of the city?

    • #714732
      Anonymous
      Participant

      getting back to the liffey boardwalk which is now under construction…does anyone know…

      what is it for?

      where does it go?

      why wasnt it co-ordinated with the new footbridge?

      is it needed?

      how much more clutter can fit up and down the quays?

    • #714733
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Dublin Corporation has already called in engineering
      consultants to devise the best system of keeping sludge down
      and maintaining the water level at a permanent minimum level
      of one metre.

      It is understood a simple weir along the Liffey, probably
      alongside the Customs House, is being considered. http://www.independent.ie/2000/221/d08k.shtml

    • #714734
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I thought that the Corpo were going to clean the quay walls; they have put the new boardwalk up on the muck filthy stained walls.Pease give them a blast and wash them…common sense says.

    • #714735
      studqub
      Participant

      i thought the structure along the north quay wall was there to clean the walls (joking)
      I have serious reservations about this scheme, not with the design, but with its reasoning and its use.
      Too little space on the north quay pushes pedestrians out over the water…
      and what will be located on it but bookstalls i believe…????

      least sheltered area of city….north quay
      all makes snese to me????

    • #714736
      Anonymous
      Participant

      The new Liffey Boardwalk reminds me of one of those clip-on toilet cleaners, but somebody forgot to flush the loo?

    • #714737
      Jas
      Participant

      They are going to clean the walls, i beloieve it will cost 2 million and when theyre doing that, they intend cleaning the rubbish out, and building a small weir to keep a minimun of a metre of water in the Liffey at all times.

    • #714738
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Money well spent definitely, I’d say ….. but, but, but what about the St. Vincent de Paul and the homeless’ as Tony Gregory would say….’This money is being wasted’ he would say.’A waste of tax payers money’ he’d say. UFO Mr.Gregory.

    • #714739
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Does’nt the quay walls look 100% better now that they have started to clean them. The boardwalk looks an interesting feature too; I’ll say it will be a success despite all the negavity and hoo-haw over it. Pessimism, negativity and stagnation is rampant in this country. Well done to John Fitzgerald, he is a man who really wants to get things done for the overall betterment of the city.

    • #714740
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I see from yesterday’s papers that An Taisce is bothered about the cleaning of the walls. Bad for them and their structure, it seems. Oh, God.

    • #714741
      Anonymous
      Participant

      An Taisce has a gripe with everything that is proposed for the city. I suppose they want the dirt retained because they view it as ‘genuine antique dirt’ the product of times past and therefore an invaluable asset for the city. If one was to pay heed to their constant whingy disapprovals of projects, nothing would be done in the city. As I have said before despite all the whinging and whining they are as effective as a paper umbrella when it really matters. By the way has anyone ever noticed the appaling condition of the grounds of their HQ ‘Tailors Hall’ which faces onto High Street near Christchurch. What an eyesore! Check out the cheap railings and neglected yard. It’s a matter of the kettle calling the pot black arse.

    • #714742
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Temple Bar…An Taisce Objects, Smithfield…An Taisce Objects,Croke Park…An Taisce Objects,O’Connell Street…An Taisce Objects, Millenium Mall…An Taisce Objects,Millenium Spire…An Taisce Objects,National Gallery…An Taisce Objects,The NCC…An Taisce Objects,Spencer Dock…An Taisce Objects,Georges Quay…An Taisce Objects, Transport Infrastucture…An Taisce Objects,Millenium Bridge…An Taisce Objects,Liffey Boardwalk…An Taisce Objects, Quay walls…An Taisce Objects,Objects, Objects,Objects…..

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