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    lostexpectation
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    need to develope some sort of ‘in the meantime’ planning scheme, ie yes i know you want to make this into fancy hotel but in meantime we’re going to use it for market

    #734563
    ac1976
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    Eh I think we need a new Dublin City Development plan, these markets (Iveagh and smithfield) need to be saved as markets. Its just silly to think a hotel would be a good idea for the sites.

    New Development Plan could = limiting planning permission of the site to allow market activity only as I think the people of Dublin would want.

    #734564
    ninafive
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    I used to shop here for vintage clothes back in the early 90’s. I loved it- it had a real sense of what i imagine the old markets on the sites of the Ilac Centre and St.Stevens Green had back in the day. Run by a gaggle of older women traders, I used to spend many a happy hour rooting out old clothes- anything from Victorian onwards….a terrible shame all that tradition is lost in Dublin now, all that remains of it I guess is down at the Hill Market off Parnell St of a Saturday morning, and I suppose its days are numbered now that the social welfare office is closed on North Cumberland St….I wonder what plans they have for that building….

    #734565
    gunter
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    Not for the faint hearted is the Cumberland Street Market.

    #734566
    tommyt
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    @gunter wrote:

    Not for the faint hearted is the Cumberland Street Market.

    a good set of sharp elbows and an eye for a diamond in the rough is eesential for any flea marketeering. It’s a real pity this hasn’t taken off in Dublin on a bigger scale-either in a purpose built place or on the streets.

    #734567
    Global Citizen
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    @ac1976 wrote:

    Eh I think we need a new Dublin City Development plan, these markets (Iveagh and smithfield) need to be saved as markets. Its just silly to think a hotel would be a good idea for the sites.

    New Development Plan could = limiting planning permission of the site to allow market activity only as I think the people of Dublin would want.

    I agree.
    40 years after the destruction of Les Halles, Parisians still lament the loss of “The belly of Paris” as Emile Zola called it. Baltards graceful pavilions were sacrificed on an alter of private greed, bureaucratic incompetence and political compromise. The subterranean monstrosity that replaced it (Forum Les Halles) only adds insult to injury and the pigeon droppings that cover the place are the only feature that gives this shopping centre any character.

    Surely Dublin wouldn’t make the same mistakes.

    Would it ?

    #734568
    DjangoD
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    @tommyt wrote:

    a good set of sharp elbows and an eye for a diamond in the rough is eesential for any flea marketeering. It’s a real pity this hasn’t taken off in Dublin on a bigger scale-either in a purpose built place or on the streets.

    It really is a pity. And the argument that Dublin’s crappy weather (for street trading) and large amount of gougers work against such plans is invalid when you look at London’s amazing market culture. They have their fair share of rain and louts and they manage to make it work admirably.

    If we could get anything like that we’d be lucky.

    #734569
    dermot_trellis
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    Not knowing the history of the Markets, is there any specific reason why they closed the building in the first place (other than to sneakily redevelop it)? Structurally unsafe or something like that?.. Living nearby I would love to see it back open as a proper market.

    #734570
    Anonymous
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    @DjangoD wrote:

    It really is a pity. And the argument that Dublin’s crappy weather (for street trading) and large amount of gougers work against such plans is invalid when you look at London’s amazing market culture. They have their fair share of rain and louts and they manage to make it work admirably.

    If we could get anything like that we’d be lucky.

    Very true, and Dublin benefits similarly from having this two well placed and generally preserved old market buildings – plus I’m sure that there’s a market for decent.. markets, and there’s obviously no lack of supply, Ireland being Ireland.

    Would be nice to see some solid plans to turn Iveagh and Smithfield back into burgeoning farmers markets.

    #734571
    cheezypuf
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    It’s been 14 years now that this market has been closed and festering. Pity. We could really do with a proper covered market. Anyone any idea if there are any plans for development or will they continue to rot ’till they’re demolished?

    #734572
    pico
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    Irish Times mentioned it on Saturday, although I don’t know where the information comes from…

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/20 … 66473.html

    #734573
    LOB
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    Some Photographs from 1986 in the RTE library
    http://tinyurl.com/6ksz3ry

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