goodbye hawkins house
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Which is already fitted out but many other buildings in the pipeline are not and if the floorplans were replicated it would post vacation be possible to transfer much of the internal fitout to new buildings.
It appears that the only reason given for not disposing of the property was the assumed fit out cost on Chapel House c€5.5m would have to be written down over a 3 year timeframe.
As a straight move selling HH as a development opportunity and investing the proceeds would over a 6 year time frame would exceed the costs of leasing and fitting out Chapel House should the proceeds be invested in a low risk NTMA type model.
Should NTMA be acquiring buildings in the knoweldge that they can provide the tenant as part of the National Pension plan?
What about recladding and refurbishing the building – this has been done sucessfully elsewhere, eg the awful eyesores that were on Stephens Green… It just strikes me that any developer of this site would be unlikely to get pp to replicate the volume as currently exists, as well as demolition being wasteful.
Now theres a thought – bet you never imagined that I would be advocating a development strategy that would in part keep/ reuse a building that we all – and me especially – depise!:p
Not a runner one two grounds unfortunately
1>>> Floor to ceiling heights are too low to install raised access floors and proper air-con services ensuring it would never achevie the standard required to secure a Grade A rent which would make up a 30-40% difference with the uplift probably being insufficient to justify the risk premium of 30% factored in by prospective developers.
2>>> Site layout; HH is plonked badly in the middle of the site with curtilage all round; through use of lucent cladding a much higher quantum of floorspace would be possible even at a slightly lower height
TP, I defer to you on grounds 1, however Point 2 would be irrelevent to any developer if they were then to lose sq area!
So back to whacking it anyway then 🙂
So, who’s going to win the biggest PVC contract in the history of the state?
Might as well go the whole hog and clad the entire building in the stuff – a monument to Ireland’s love affair with plastic.
And aptly, a short term solution.You know its funny, when you look at the picture above you realised that someone loved this building once: real care was taken in designing it, it isn’t like a million other crap for the sake of it buildings, whoever designed it meant it to be great, they just did so at a time when there was no concern for planning rather than architecture and the materials have aged badly.
@Graham Hickey wrote:
So, who’s going to win the biggest PVC contract in the history of the state?
Might as well go the whole hog and clad the entire building in the stuff – a monument to Ireland’s love affair with plastic.
And aptly, a short term solution.ROFL 😀
@notjim wrote:
You know its funny, when you look at the picture above you realised that someone loved this building once: real care was taken in designing it, it isn’t like a million other crap for the sake of it buildings, whoever designed it meant it to be great, they just did so at a time when there was no concern for planning rather than architecture and the materials have aged badly.
Actually when it was first built nobody loved it then either, not even the architect
I’m not too certain on this demolish Hawkin’s House movement. I fully understand that hawkin’s house is the vilest building on the skyline in Dublin and the site it selfishly stakes out for itself could be used for something better but I think that, well, it acts as a sort of warning against architecture of its ilk. You know, if someone wanted to build a concrete monstrosity like it in the future all people had to do is point to Hawkins House and that would lead to the concrete hulk being shelved.
I just hope tcd is involved in their alumnus’s redevelopment of this site: they are idiots if they aren’t.
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You’ve come up with the ideal solution there.
Don’t demolish it. Save the money, and just paint it blue.
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