Dublin Metropolis – Artist’s Impression

Thank you for pointing out the defination of “Metroplis”, my mistake.
When you say that if I have nothing good to say don’t say anything at all I just want to verify that when it comes to anything being developed outside of Dublin it seems to be alright to criticise and to put down.
Also I no longer live in Cardiff I live in Ireland where by the way I grew up.
I have travelled a bit so have taken my experiences of different citites with me.
Thank You.

P.S: I will have to update my profile.

The original photo that spawned this thread (courtesy of http://www.fantasyjackpalace.com ) is in this months The Dubliner Magazine with an article on Dublins architecture by Mannix Flynn the actor.

This is counter balanced by an article by Frank McDonald, well worth a read but unfortunately not online at http://www.thedubliner.ie 🙁

I forgot to say that the Dubliner is available at €1.99 and has an advance preview of Gerry Stenbridge’s new novel. 🙂

http://www.scs.ie/

Any thoughts on the image

@Thomond Park wrote:

http://www.scs.ie/

Any thoughts on the image

That image was shown before in the Dublin Skyline thread.

Not as that link; it is not the image that it is interesting it is the group that are putting it up as the main image on their homepage.

I note just how unclear the Custom House is in the image it looks to have received some attention from the artist.

……….I agree

Isn’t urban sprawl muddying the waters when trying to measure the size of a city, though?
Standing in the middle of Liverpool, it certainly doesn’t feel like a bigger city than Dublin, however many miles of semi-ds stretch out across Merseyside. I’m not sure what difference it makes if there is a similar large city a few miles up the road either. Is half-a-million-population Edinburgh made magically bigger because it’s near (ish) to Glasgow?
Ireland will never be as densely populated as Britain, but I’ve no doubt Dublin will eventually become a large conurbation with towns like Drogheda, Navan and Naas continuing to swell and everything in between being slowly swallowed up by housing. A lot of these people still won’t consider themselves Dubliners, though. If this ‘Liffeyside’ greater Dublin has nearly three million in it, will that make it a major city?
Also, if a million-strong shanty town with no industry, commercial life or infrastructure springs up in a developing country, is that a major metropolis?
It’s not all about numbers.

@PDLL wrote:

Its all relative – someone from Shanghai might think that London was small and Dublin was tiny! I think what is missing here is a sense of proportion. Dublin is a standalone city of 1,000,000. After you leave Dublin, there is no other town of any reasonable size for at least 180km (this is particularly obvious when you fly over Ireland at night). Compare this with Liverpool – it is part of a much larger urban conurbation which effectively spreads to Manchester and incorporates many large suburban towns. Glasgow is only an hour from Edinburgh which has a population of .5 million in its own right. In short, Dublin is – by international standards – small. I remember going round this block in another thread. It seemed to end up in a Freudian line of thinking there too. There is nothing wrong in simply accepting that Dublin is not a major metropolis by international standards

Ignoring national boundaries – our friends in Belfast are but 164.5Km from us. There is a ‘conurbation’ of sorts (comparable to Glasgow – Edinburgh – though it is but 65km) area stretching along the east coast]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distances.html?n=78&lat=53.433&long=-6.250[/url]

You make it sound like Dublin is lost in some void. Ireland is small and Dublin takes up quite a bit of it.
It’s part of urbanised Northern Europe – itself part of the highly urbanised EU which is in turn part of the uber-urbanised northern hemisphere.

Also, Dublin may be pending a move up in the influencial Loughborough University table of ‘World Cities’ – to a Gamma Level World city. Your mates, Liverpool, Manchester, Glasgow and Edinburgh aint goin anywhere – the ones that manage to get a mention languish in ‘minimal evidence of world city formation’

Dublin is in ‘relatively strong evidence of world city formation’. It’s not just size. Good oul bruiser punches way abover her dainty, pretty little weight. Its also frikin loaded – absolutley minted compared to many cities.

see: http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/citylist.html

(just got back from being away for a good bit and lovin it!) 🙂

Who judges what the population of Dublin is… and where do they draw the line. From what I’m learning in school, Dublin has a population of about 450,000. Obviously this is only the greater Dublin area and I’m sure if you were to include all of the satellite towns you could count all day. But unfortunetly this isn’t what cities are judged by. You are comparing Dublin (including suburbs and satellite towns) with Glasgow’s greater population, which is wrong… as you are excluding about another million people from Scotlands largest city. It’s like in London… greater London has 8 million people, everyone says that that is the official population, but include the suburbs and commuter belt, and the population of London as a whole turns into something more along the lines of 18 million. It’s too hard to judge and in the end…. nobody ends up right when judging a population.