City of the Sacred Heart
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I think the man behind the idea has some sort of religious agenda behind the whole project. I mean who in their right mind would seriously consider “City of the Sacred Heart” as a possible name? Plus I don’t like the look of that constant blue sky over Mayo in the conceptual illustrations.. people might start smiling….
I think the man behind the idea has some sort of religious agenda behind the whole project. I mean who in their right mind would seriously consider “City of the Sacred Heart” as a possible name? And is it just me, or is there something a little sinister about that constant blue Mayo sky in the conceptual illustrations…..?
I received an email from them today, with the name in the from field as “From: “Rockwell Defence Systems”, its did seem to be them, but this kind of approach makes them look like idiots.
Nietzsche may have written that god was dead but that was only one of his hypothises in a sea of ideas. Philosophy is like maths in that it can prove by deduction in a rational fashion that, let us say, -1 = 0.This would lead us to see that although something can be rationally explained, it may not be true.
To deny Catholics the right to belive in their church and all its dogma is also undemocratic. Nazism, as some of you might say. Out of basic moral decency (lets not have an argument on the origins of morality please), we are obliged to respect the beliefs and cultures of all denominations. The Catholic church may refuse to accept the beliefs of others but that is not a day-to-day decision on the part of the Catholic individual. However, we still must respect their beliefs, and wrong as they may be (May be, I did not say that their beliefs ARE wrong), it is wrong of others to belittle their religous beliefs. Religion is very important and a source of inspiration and courage to many people. I find it in very bad taste Saint Jerome to knock the beliefs of others.
Apart from that, Catholic church & Co., get a grip, ‘Sacred Heart City’, for what purpose & to what end. If the faith is dying, do you seriously consider that an Urban Shrine is the solution? Believe what you may, but build with your own cash(no shortage their, 2001 years in business and still rolling), but dont destroy our countryside
This is so funny.
The press section is a scream. The bloke behind it is saying that if the West does not help him, he is moving the project to Kildare and starting a political party with 35 TDs elected.
http://www.newcityforthewest.com/
Only in Ireland – exit visas at your nearest An Post office.
What is so funny?
A large city in the west would balance the the overly centralised state we live in already, nor is it unique in world history for cities to be founded by fiat, after a conquest or revolution , or for administration to be moved to a once small city to avoid over centralization. Unfortunately Galway – a prime target – has no room to grow.
Think of Constantinople, Washington, Alexandria, Melbourne, Bonn ( as was) , and Brasila.
There are plenty more.
Do you have any real intellectual points to make, besides Dublin centralism, or an aversion to the admitedly silly name of the City as suggested on that site?
I have nothing against building a city in the west of Ireland. But this is just so weird and a bunch of religious headbangers is behind the idea. It’s just so odd and so American-centric. Nothing Irish about it. Aside from the fact it’s a nutcase project, what would be so great about building an Atlanta in Mayo? A soul car-based American bland sprawl of total nothingness except a base for exporting wealth and developing little Irish preists and nuns.
This is simply a fruitcake, “be like the Yanks boyo and all our problems will be solved!” idea taken to the extreme by people who want to move the religious orders into the City of the Sacred Heart and then think about everything else.
Tallaght meets Knock is not my idea of heaven.
WOW – funny stuff alright.
‘City of the sacred Heart’??????
‘Houses with chapels’??????
‘The city will be paid for by gas found off the Mayo coast’?????
Weird and bizarre but above all scary!!!!!Quote from site:
“The Winds of Change are truly blowing, it’s time we all begin to realize that, most urgently. False promises are no longer acceptable, the whitewashing of reality is also unacceptable, and the electorate will let all the elected officials know when that day of reckoning comes and it will come very soon. And that is why we are anxious to have this proposal of a New City high on the political agenda for those already elected, and who represent those who voted them in. If they cannot deliver, then they must step aside, and allow a whole new political idealism to grow and take over.”
Wasn’t this speech made in Munich in the late 1920s?
Given that the people of the west tend to be more religious I imagine that the city might reflect that – however the name is indeed naff. As for the quote about “The winds of change” – that could have been made by any reformist, or any socialist, and not just a fascist.
Nor do they seem to want an Atlanta, because they make clear their commitment to public transport throughout, and not to the car. However there is this :
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A pleasant city to live and work in. It will be a “green city” with extensive parks, tree-lined boulevards, playing fields, forest walks, orchards, public gardens, river walks, wildlife parks, lake and river facilities, and plenty of open space for people._This will complement the beautiful scenery of the west of Ireland. The new city will be_a pleasant working environment and an ideal venue for conferences, seminars and business meeting”Sounds like too much parks and not enough city – which is what they say about Melbourne. Its not clear if surrounding these parks will be high density housing ( why would they need gardens with so many parks?).
Anyway I was merely agreeing , in theory, with the idea of a city in the west – I think any real attempts to build it may be a disaster, will overrun it costs enormously, and cost the revenue massively in building costs and the cost of transferring public servants. And may well fail.
So we stuck with Dublin sprawl – the Atlanta of the east.
Dublin is nothing like Atlanta. I lived in Atlanta for a while and it is truly the most boring and car-orientated city on the planet (more that LA at this point)
Dublin, despite it’s shortcommings and sprawl, is still far more European that the Frank McDoanlds of this world would have you believe.
The City of the Sacred Heart strikes more like Camberra, which is a terible, souless spread of nothing built by people with more money than taste.
The west of Ireland does not need a second large city. The National Spatial Strategy is the ideal solution if the present government and CIE were not trying to destroy it.
Personally, I’m suspicious of any proposal for the west that can’t spell Co “Roscomon”. But I was greatly amused at the semi-literate authors’ fondness for Unecessary Capital Letters and throwing around dodge-y syntax like Snuff at a Wake.
That proposed city is Bonkers.
Anything like that with religious overtones smacks of religious fundamentalism and bigotry. Enough of such out-dated dross.
At least if it had been proposed 400 years ago and had we been a wealthy state, we would have today a city like Rome no doubt.
But this is the secular age today.“All religious orders will be invited to be part of the design stage (as will others) so that monasteries, such as Benedictines, Cistercians, and Carmelites would be an essential part of this New City, and indeed help to form the new spirit of this city.”
They say all relious orders, but do they actually only mean Christian orders? Thats what it looks like to me. Sounds a bit fundamentalist to me.
.. a bit! I love these types of articles….. they make me so proud to be from the Land of Saints and Scholars.
And Dana for Mayor I say
You know, if someone had proposed such a plan only 40 or 50 years ago they would have had a real chance of finding people and money to back them.
If a bishop supported this scheme it would have gotten priority. The wrong people were in control then but now we know better.
I don’t live in Ireland but I can see images of gaudy Marian shrines in housing estates, blue and white and yellow Vatican flags,DeValera
kneeling before a bishop, eucharistic congresses, Mary queen of Ireland etc.etc……Didn’t we not leave that kind of thing behind us years ago ???
please God 😀
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