Old dublin streets

Old dublin streets

Postby seeking » Mon May 24, 2004 9:31 pm

Hi all, Not sure if anyone can help me, might not be on the right track here but, heres the thing.. I am looking for information on a place in dublin 2. It has been demolished and renamed as far as I know. It was called Wentworth Terrace and was around the Holles street area. My mum lived here when she was a young girl and she speaks so nostalgically of it. it is her 60th birthday in August so to get anything on it would be wonderful, a photo or painting is a long shot but I may as well try. You guys might direct me to other sites or places in town I could contact. Thankyou !...l
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Postby phil » Tue May 25, 2004 9:12 am

Hi Seeking. Behind Holles Street Hospital there is a row called Hogan Place. According to 'Reinventing Modern Dublin' by Yvonne Whelan this street was called Wentworth Place until 1924 at which time it changed to Hogan Place. It is a continuation of Fenian street and runs into Grand Canal Street. There is quite alot of construction in this area at present, including the retention of the facades of some older houses. This development is to be called Hogan Square. Could be somewhere to start. If you cannot find it, get back to me.

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Postby seeking » Tue May 25, 2004 5:54 pm

Thankyou Phil, This is a great help, I know I'm going in the right direction now.I'll try for that book in the local library. Thanks for taking the time out to reply, didnt know where to begin !
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Postby GrahamH » Tue May 25, 2004 8:11 pm

Hello - I'm looking at a map from as far back as the 1830s and as Phil says Hogan Place was indeed Wentworth Place, and well built-up at that.
And looking at a completely modern map (ie from 1980!) I'm glad to tell you that Wentworth Terrace still exists in some form or another. Unfortunately it's only listed in the street index rather than the map, but it nonetheless indicates that it's probably sandwiched in the square bounded by Hogan Place, Holles St, Lr Mount St and Grattan St - likey to be leading off Hogan Place itself.
Also, an illustrated map from 1846 shows the area built up with Georgian houses of at least two, most three storeys.
This is actually a really nice part of town, around the canal there -must take a wander round some day again...
Anyway - hope this helps!
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Postby seeking » Tue May 25, 2004 8:23 pm

Hi Graham, cannot believe my luck, this is fantastic. Where can I view these maps, have been doing Google searches all last evening and this evening and it has been so tedious and frustrating and no positive results. Can't believe you found it, really was expecting a dead end !!! thanks for replying have made my day. .....
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Postby GrahamH » Tue May 25, 2004 11:18 pm

If you're extra-especially nice to me I might just take a wander over there on Thursday and see if it's where I think it is.
Otherwise I remember seeing the picture of the general area from 1847 I have (allbeit somewhat before your Mum's time) in Pat Liddys 'Dublin' book in Easons or some other bookshop, it's on sale all over the place.
Just look at any modern map of Dublin, or rather the street index and you'll find if it's still there now.
The Dublin Directory from 1850 which is always handy turns up results on-line - a painter, musician, a person who's occupation isn't listd and appropriately for here - an architect, were just some of the residents in 1850.

The Ntl Archives on Bishop St will give you census records for when your Mum lived there if you want to bring back memories of the neighbours :)
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Postby seeking » Wed May 26, 2004 8:58 am

On the trail at last , Archives a great idea. Will take a stroll into Hogans place someday soon to see what I find. Super !!
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Postby Rory W » Wed May 26, 2004 5:19 pm

There is a building called Wentworth on Eblana Villas (Junction next to the Spar on Hogan Place) - hope that helps a bit
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Postby GrahamH » Thu May 27, 2004 9:21 pm

I took a quick detour this evening on the way home - unfortunately couldn't find it in that square bounded by the aforementioned streets - but it could be elsewhere, like where Rory says further north.
Good luck searching, suppose the easiest thing is to ask someone in the area - like those obligatory kitchen-chair-on-the-doorstep-women who sit to make strangers feel uncomfortable.

It works :(
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Postby seeking » Mon May 31, 2004 11:15 am

Good idea, am sure they'd be only delighted to natter about anything and everything. Rang archives on Pearse St and am paying them a visit this week. Thanks again.......
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Postby valentina wong » Mon May 31, 2004 12:19 pm

Will you guys take photos of your 'antiquities'? That sounds cool. I really want to have a glance of them!:>
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Postby Paul Clerkin » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:50 pm

In 1836, a terrace of houses was built on Grand Canal Street and named Wentworth Terrace after the Thomas Wentworth, Earl of Stafford.
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Postby PVC King » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:10 am

Originally published by Thoms Commercial 1977
Wentworth Place here Hogan Pl
3 Keenan, John
4 Watson, Annie
5 Flats
6 Daly, Julia
7 Kelly, Daniel
8 Stokes, Eduardo


The National Library lists every Rateable dwelling through Thoms going back a long time. I use the 1977 edition because it becomes less acurate once the tax was due annually on private residences. Good luck in your search...... :)
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Postby seeking » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:30 am

Thanks for the response, this is a big help, Will pay the national library a visit......
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