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@Radioactiveman wrote:
Nearby, Joe Gavin is due to bring forward a motion to list (i.e. make a protected structured) the remaining Ford production buildings on the quays. Now used for a multitude of retail and manufacturing uses, they have a rich industrial history underneath all the modern rubbish.
Which buildings are those, exactly?
I just found this topic (being a bit aged, as it is) and read with delight. Well, irritation, disbelief and delight.
The article quoted in original post is stunning, but I particularly like the one few posts above – the executive living joke. I constantly had to look from the text to the picture to check if that is the house they are actually talking about.
I’m amazed by the vocabulary used to describe this overpriced, exposed, enclosed by public road, awful piece of junk:
ultimate, prestigious, lifetime opportunity, truly quality, residence, distinctive, imposing, beautifully, generous, possibilities, large, maintenance free, appeal, extras, wonderfully, surprising privacy (?!!), fine, rarity, appreciated – all in such a short note!There is a similarity in this thread to the ‘architecture in words’ one and they are both, I think, more important than they appear. Quality of writing about architecture – and housing in general – in Ireland is very poor and is to some extent responsible for the things that have gone wrong here.
Pug, I’m sorry if I sounded aggressive, I didn’t intend to.
I have to agree with you on the fact that Cork bus station is just too small to be really efficient, buses are parking and manoeuvring in crazy way. It would make sense to combine a more spacious bus station with a rail station, it would also be an architectural opportunity (an amazing bus/train/subway station in Valencia by Calatrava comes to mind). But.
Cork is a small town and it seems appropriate to have buses coming into the very middle of it, especially the local ones. Then, to throw out only intercity buses? It seems odd to have two bus stations in such a small town, it would only cause a lot of confusion.Also,the bus station is a public space of a sort in the centre of town and in my opinion Cork really lucks public spaces (no town square, not even a plaza nowhere to be found) and to replace it with another retail/office/whatever would be just sad. Ugly as it is, it’s a place where tourists, people going to work and Corkonions mix and interact.
And I’m just very very doubtful about efficiency of any “fleet of minibuses” in Ireland – to use your words: “The transport in Cork and Ireland in general compared to Europe and the rest of the planet is utterly utterly dismal.”
Saucy Jack wrote:Cork has a fantastic island core with great narrow streets and lanes,river frontage,bridges and above all else excellent topography.
QUOTE]What you said is of course true, but: plenty of those narrow streets and lanes are in terrible condition right now, most of river frontages are a wasted chance and topography doesn’t determine whether city fabric is good or not.
As shanekeane said above: Cork has a great potential.@Pug wrote:
i see your point but i suppose i am referring to having the express coaches pulling out on to the roads where its currently located. Thats an excellent site that could be doing more for the city than a bus station. A fleet of little shuttle buses all around the city that would take you to places like train/bus, airport etc could be done then.
I’m sorry, but you probably drive yourself, don’t use buses? Can you give an example what could be so beneficial for the city in the bus station site?
What you propose is creating trouble for many people for a reason which remains unknown. Plenty of people actually go to work from bus station, what you propose is to make them dependant of two unreliable buses in one direction instead of one.Also, “fleet of shuttle buses” sounds great, but do you know how bad the actual “fleet of buses” in Cork works?
