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- January 30, 2003 at 11:27 am in reply to: The Abbey Theatre – should it stay or should it go #717738
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Participantoooh the cynicism…. but I suspect you are right Paul.
January 30, 2003 at 10:22 am in reply to: The Abbey Theatre – should it stay or should it go #717736urbanisto
ParticipantWhat wont happen – the redevelopment itself or SWT getting their mitts on it?
I must admit I am a bit sceptical of any prestige public projects going throug under the present regime in light of Bertie Bowl and Metro.urbanisto
ParticipantThey seem to have changed hands a bit since they were opened. It may just be they were shut down for winter – lets face it its not exactly the nicest place to sit and have a coffee in mid January! What they really need to do is get someone in who can afford to keep it going for the winter. I remeber they were tendering out the coffee shop in the Hugh Lane Gallery, which is DCC run. Attaching a spring/summer franchise for the Boardwalk to the that lease might be a good idea.
To be honest I dont think the Boardwalk will really come into its own until the traffic levels on the quays are significantly reduced.urbanisto
ParticipantOn the contrary dddallas, I think alot of people would heartily disagree with you. Dublin’s Georgian streetscapes (minus the inverted commas) are an important treasure to be looked after and maintained. What happened on Fitzwilliam St in the 1960s was a crime – pure and simple – the result of corrupt politicians and developers and a complete lack of foresight and appreciation. Why shouldn’t the buildings be kept in their original state? Who says these buildings were originally built to ‘crap’ standards for their time? Noone is suggesting Dublin be in an 1825 freezeframe…but there are plenty of areas available to try out new without damaging the old.
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ParticipantDesmund – enough of that old protestant/catholic gumph… Its not THAT bad in Belfast and you are probably safer there than in our lovely city.
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ParticipantThey wouldnt really work for residentail because of the huge office space behind that facades. I can hardly see a property owner demoslih all that… but heres hoping
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ParticipantCapel Street: Wasn’t there meant to be some sort of viewing platform element to this bridge? I am sure I read that somewhere.
Should all look great when its up and running. I hope its a success. They could even extend the market onto the Boardwalk if it turns out..
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ParticipantI agree but the problem I have always found with property in Ireland is that there is absolutely no variety or choice. All houses look the same. All apartments look the same (at least internally). It basically a case of developers providing the lowest common denominator (and calling it ‘stunning’, ‘majestic’, ‘its not an apartment its a lifestyle’) and everyone laps dem up for de kids so dat dey can afford to get on de property ladder.
Its so thoroughly depressing. We all aspire to have a little Georgian pad in Ranelagh because they have high ceilings and large windows and actually resemble somewhere you would want to live. Unfortunately there is limited stock available and it costs a fortune.
I have friends living in the Old Distillery off Smithfield. Lokks okay from the outside although it is being let go a little…poor estate management (have we been there before!). Inside there are ‘delightful’ shoe boxes with their cardboard walls and their windowless bathrooms with noisy automatic extractor fan and obligatory yellow water stain on the ceiling. Utterly predicatable…and best of all €1,200 a month!
The thing that amazes me are friends who buy (they’re all at it thses days) and ask with joyous expectation on their eyes..’what do you think’! They are generally visibly hurt when I say’It the SAME as everyone elses!’
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ParticipantPerhaps this could attract the necessary cash to renovate Henrietta Steet to it past glory. It a logical entension of the Kings Inn.
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Participantaaah Murpho…. no wonder poor auld Bord Failte is having such a hard tiem with people like you around
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ParticipantSherri – I suppose tops for unusual and thought provoking would be The Burren and the Cliffs of Moher in Co Clare. Also the Aran Islands and the Conemara seaboard.
Ireland is not very blessed with extremes of landscape….though that is maybe part of its charm.
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ParticipantGraham – not entirely true as there was a phot on pg2 of the Guardian when the fourth section went up…. But I must admit I couldn’t find anything about the topping off
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ParticipantI think thats quite a balanced view of Dublin considering…
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ParticipantThats an interesting question: What is the reason behind this irrational fear of tall buildings? Why did they build Liberty Hall and then stop at that?
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ParticipantThats nice to think our deliberations have been followed by Ian Ritchie & Co…. and maybe even Jim Barrett and his gang have had a look in.
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ParticipantGosh, 20 yoyos Graham…are you mad! The wonder that is the web is made for such things.
The Reflecting City site more or less says it all and the DCC can send you on their newsletters. You probably have loads of nice pics though….
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ParticipantJames – you should go to the City Council site and view the plans or better still http://www.reflectingcity.com
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Participantyes I think so….but come on how long does it take to lay some track across the width of the street. The underground substation is already being built (or excavated) and wasn’t Luas meant to be live by end of this year. I know its been delayed but surely this had been factored in to meet the 2003 deadline.
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ParticipantToo logical….
What about the rest of the IAP plan. The proposed revamp for Westmoreland St and D’Olier St and some much needed attention to Malborough St. There’s no reason why it can’t be started asap…no reason why it hasnt already started!
I wrote to the Project Manager for O’Connell St when the issue of the trees was in the news. She sent me back that schedule…. no so much as a trace of embarrasment about the fact it would take 10 months to pave a section of the street from Abbey St to the Bridge!
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ParticipantOriginally posted by lostcarpark
Yeah, and if the Abbey moves into the Carlton, and the fast joints can be persuaded to tidy up their image, the whole street could look amazing.Anyone know when the plaza is due to be finished (or even started)?
James
The section from the Spike to Abbey St by end 2003, the section from Abbey St to the Bridge by end 2004 and the final section to the Parnell monument by end 2005
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