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Im not sure the CC would have had anything to do with this Graham as the paving on the Green was all undertaken by OPW.
I agree that the newly paved areas look fab! Any idea what the LUAS side will look like?This from last weeks Northside People:
Moore Street to be covered
MOORE STREET market will not be lost to Dubliners as part of the massive redevelopment planned for the city’s historic trading place.
Dublin City councillors were assured in a report during a recent Area Committee meeting that the local authority is committed to the market.
As part of a 1999 planning decision by the council the area — known as the Carlton site — is to be redeveloped, but Moore Street Market has been identified as a mainstay of the Parnell and Henry Street location.
“It has been one of the objectives of the O’Connell Street Integrated Area Plan to upgrade the environment on Moore Street and to provide partial coverage to the street while at the same time retaining the atmosphere of the market,” it was explained to members.
“This development was always linked with the developments on both the ILAC and Carlton sites.”
Subsequent to the ILAC Centre’s application for redevelopment and confirmation of amendments to the Carlton site by An Bord Pleanala, the O’Connell Street IAP has recommenced the design process for a canopy and environmental improvements, such as the pavement.
The design process will include full consultation with all interested parties including the existing street traders.
While stall holders at the market will be expected to welcome this announcement, news that storage facilities will not be provided by council for traders might muffle its reception.
“As a general rule, Dublin City Council does not provide storage facilities for casual trading,” the report states.
“It is the responsibility of stall holders to provide their own facilities.”
It was added: “Dublin City Council is committed to the upgrading of Moore Street and to the retention of a market on the street.
“The new canopy, pavements and stalls will serve to enhance this historic market.”
I agree with reinstating a more sympathetic period facade. A new modern facade is simply repeating the mistakes of the past. I am sure the Pennys building and the Fingal offices were all very nice and new and modern and forward-looking in their time, but as is generally the case with ‘modern’ it doesn’t seem to stay like that very long. To prove my point I have to ask how come the RDH is requesting to replace it facade and Clery’s are not? I am not in favour of completely turning back the clock on O’Connell Street – although historical picture show that right up to the 1960s it was a very fine boulevard – but I dont think ‘modern’ facades have had much success on the street over the past 3 decades.
I think dallas meant Abbeyfield in Kinsealy maybe.
Have been reading this thread with interest and wondering how you can value buildings which span such a large time period. Perhaps buildings such as the Four Courts and Sublin Castle cost exhorbitant amounts when built.
As for the Busaras tale …. its interesting to hear how much was pent on the interiors. I wonder how well they have weathered over the years. I remember a thread a few months back when Paul said he tried to get access to office areas but was denied. Judging by the condition of the ticket hall I cant imagine the insides looking too good.
Still on a rant about this…… how on earth can the Ports Authority (if they were the owners) justify a £30m price tag for the Ramp? Its not as if it was doing anything? Its just a big lump of tarmac. If the land was so commercially valuable then why have they never redeveloped it themselves as part of the IFSC project.
I think the Ports Authority shop must have had very big windows!!!
Why doesnt the Government become a shareholder in the new stadium and leave its running to the professional bodies. That way the ‘provate sector’ use their ‘expertise’ to profitably run the stadium and the State gets a longterm return on its investment.
Personally I think they should go ahead with Landsdowne Road. As least it already has a public transport link – although I think dear old CIE will need to consider an major upgrade to the DART station here – in tandem with the stadium redeveloment that is, not 15 year later.
Linking in with another thread…..that of LUAS. Surely the logical thing to consider would be for LUAS Line C – the one that is going from Abbey Street to Connolly and now on to the Point – to continue on over the river with one spur coming back up the south docklands area (maybe even a loop line to O’Connell Street) and another spur continuing on to Landsdowne Road via Ringsend. Too logical? Too much like forward planning?
I never cease to be amazed by these types of mails! There are 52 glorious pages on this thread. Why not just read back!!!
Thats a good attitude! I suppose he might have a point in relation to the whole of Temple Bar.. on the whole its a thriving, busy quarter. But I think the Old City are is being let go to pot. There really has to be a concerted effort to get people down to this part of town.
The invest it in the poor people of the Cayman Islands GregF and buy Charvet shirts and each in Bang! Its called philanthropy!
Add to that the fact that the bridge is a copy of another in Spain…so its not as if it hasn’t already been built! i.e. design hitches, unforeseen contruction problems etc.
Cost over runs! Never!
It seems if there is one thing that can be guaranteed in today dog-eat-dog, capitalist utopia its ‘construction difficulties’.
Mind you I dont think the cost of a project almost quadrupling is too much to worry about…after all we are one of the world richest countries, aren’t we Charlie?
What is the issue with the Pheonix Park Line? Why is no-one willing to consider it? I wonder what the journey times would be if the line was repaired and put back in use. And could any other stations be added on?
Hmm, Im not so sure about that Niall. The point has already been made that roads offer no value for money and yet in general govnerments are happy to pump millions into them (although this might seem spurious when you look at the state of our roads). A Dublin-centric rail network just encourages the growth of Dublin at the expense of other centres. If we want to encourage growth in the provences then we have to make it more desirable for people and businesses to be based there and public transport is vital.
High speed rail is a great goal but this is a small country and journey times between major centres are not that bad. I think the plan should be to focus on more ‘local’ network around key growth centres (the much vaulted ‘gateways’) and upgrade the mainline to a good standard. High Speed is for the future.
I would have expected nothing less really. The present Government have shown themsleves to be as completely small minded and devoid of ideas as so many of recent decades. Whether in times of unprecedented prosperity or tight belts our parish pump deputies just cant seem to grasp the bigger picture.
DOUBLEY ANGRY
