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Yes but the debate was whether they actually needed to be in these colours or whether they could be in the same colour as the paving slab and just rely on the tactility to perform their function.
I have seen similar paving in the Uk that matches the surrounding paving. Asthetically it looks much better.
Who cares!!! NO NO NO!!!! Not another one. All the problems these premises have caused have been well documented here and elsewhere. Aren’t ‘they’ just in the porcess of completeing a superpub in the old St Marys Abbey on Jervis Street? Aren’t there a rake of pubs already on this street? There MUST be more to regeneration that pubs!
I also went down for a closer look and I couldnt help thinking what a state Moore Street is in. Ugly ILAC on one side, crappy country town type buildings on the other and the soom to be built modern box at the Parnell Street end. It was very forlorn looking.
I think city markets are a great thing. I would much rather see Moore Street developed into a much marger space along the lines of the Old Fruit Markets in Smithfield. I think the DCC plan is for an enclosed street.
Its hopefully a sign of that much needed ‘domino effect’ of tenants on the street encouraging (for want of a better word) each other to upgrade.
Is that whats planned for all the inner city routes… brackets to the surrounding buildings. I think it would be much less intrusive than poles.
I can’t wait for the Millennium… its going to be brilliant!!!
I saw the Spire in the flesh at the weekend, and I didnt think the design on the base was all that bad but the nonsensical layout bollards at the end was a puzzle as was the obvious grime and dirt of the Spire.
So I have to agree the Spire has definately worked out as the perfect symbol of this city in the 21st Century. Aspires to be so much but at the end of it is just a dirty and chaotic mess.
Yes, you’re right Graham. I tend to forget just how long this whole thing has been chugging alone (almost half a year waiting for some lighting to be turned on on the Spire!) What struck me was how simple the recommendations for the side streets were. Reduced traffic lanes, uniform tree planting, smart lighting… Its not that hard is it?
They had to be cut down, Graham as they were diseased (dutch elm I think) The new trees are disease resisitant limes I think.
I took a walk arounf on Monday and I was struck by the appalling mess RHD made of the Parnell side of their building. Looking at the hotel from this side its a wonder anyone would want to stay their.
Poor Parnell Street and Square… they really have been let fall apart. Even the new bland and boring Jury’s Inn wont add anything. It just continues the line of ugly boxes that were put up in the mid 90s. The Square is a disgrace as well… so many of its Georgian buildings look delapidated and rundown.
I saw the model for the extension of the Municipal Gallery but the staff at the gallery reckoned it would be a while yet before anything happened due to money.
I also (for the first time) got to read the complete IAP for O’Connell Street and I was impressed the scope of the plan. But many of the elements are simple to implement nd effect street like D’Olier, Westmoreland and Parnell… all well away from the Spire and LUAS works. Its a shame that we haven’t seen any progress on these streets while we have been waiting for the Spire to be errected. A lost opportunity!
I shouldnt imagine the DCC will be in too much of a hurry to refurb the other side of the Green (yes it is their turf) to bring it to the standard of the other side… their too busy putting up those horrible poles everywhere…some even have signage on!
I think the Green would look fab with similar paving and trees on the other side and some smart new public lighting. I also think reinstating the names of the origianl walks is an excellent idea.
My only grip with the current refurb is the area in front of the Wolfe Tone statue. The cobblelocking is nice but there is just too much of it. It look windswept. I think some planting or maybe a water feature wold have broken up the space more effectively.
As for the LUAS side – why not continue the tree line? There will be plenty of space. After all one of the main plus points of light rail is its avbility to sit easily on its surroundings and make a minimum impact.
I gald you are happier Graham but remember the what we say on this site doesn’t have the least bearing on what goes on in the big bad world. RHD will most likely put up some ugly crap facade that they will be looking to replace in 30 years time and the wheel will turn full circle again…..
Still you cannot deny the Competition has been a great motivator in getting people to look after and improve their communities..even if the results have sometimes been a bit lacking in imagination and individuality. Keeping the street tidy is of the highest importance but remember also that so many Irish villages and towns are dull and grey (espcially in our beloved maritime climate) and hence all those flowerboxes and hanging baskets can sometimes be a much needed boost to the visual appeal of the places. Also most small towns have very limited resources to implement any grandiose plans.
Surely the point of Las vegas is that you almost feel you are in Eginburgh, Paris, Luxor, Rome…. What you are suggesting is that the original feels like a pastiche of the pastiche (I am getting to hate this word!)
Do you mean the small section near St Audeons Church? There’s a park on top and a much blighted street at the bottom. I have often though of this as a much undervalued landmark. My suggestion: an openair theatre venue like the Globe in London.
Keep the happy ring house… but dump the Baileys sign. I think it looks grubby and the building its on needs a lick of paint
I would hesitate using the Gaudi arguement as Barcelona is fortunate in having a very uniform look. The Gaudi style is everywhere.
However look at what is proposed for O’Connell Street by way of new developments.
The Millenium Mall – may have died a death, may not – but it was hardly cutting edge architecture and I am sure Gaudi would be turning in his grave at the thought of constructing such an ugly behemoth being put up on the Ramblas.Schuh is not that bad and it looks better than you would expect because the terrace is is on is so bland and uninteresting.
I would almost bet my life savings that the RDH will opt for a bland uninteresting and relatively inexpensive design for its new facade….remember the brown marble and brass front they put up a few years ago.
I think you have put across a very convincing arguement Graham although I take my arguement mainly from the fact that nothing modern (ie 1960s onwards) has lived up to the standards that should apply to O’Connell Street.
Nore fun, frollicks and fracas at CIE over the Ramp. I honestly wonder how these companies get through the day to day stuff never mind the long term strategic view if they can’t even talk to each other!
Aaah! Never! 🙂 Us Northsiders get our fair share!
The Green is probably not the best example of this as it is OPW owned, but O’Connell Street is a puzzle alright. After all we were told (in fact I was told in a letter from the IAP office at DCC) that the Spire would be in place in Jan (which it was) and that the three stage repaving programme would start directly after. Even taking into accpunt St Patricks Day taht would mean the works starting at the beginning of April. But May beckons and we are still waiting for them to solve the lighting problem on the Spire! As this stage I think an official unveiling would be a joke!
