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I remember seeing a documentary about Curtiba a few years ago and it certainly looked like a fantastic example of vision and commitment to producing a better environment.
Everything was considered. I even remember that the bus stop are all tubular structures which keep everyone dry/ cool (depending on season) and which open out to the same level as the bus for easy access. Each contains ticket machines and seats. Practical , functional and fully accessable.
The blanket pedestrianisation has freed up streets for people and the city was full of cafes and parks and fountains. All that claptrap you hear about how if you were to remove cars from busy thoroughfares then businesses would suffer didn’t seem to have happened there.
I am sure the plan had its problems but it was refreshing to see a city government actually daring to be radical.
Perhaps is something to do with the street being more heavily used by other traffic… a lot of buses previously used Middle Abbey St as a terminus.
I have long ceased to be impressed by the celebrity status of Bertie and his clan….
However on the subject of the super trucks I am inclined to think taht the size of HGV on our roads should be limited. I am not sure why there is a need for larger trucks… the trucks we have used up to now have managed quite successfully. Anyhow, I think our effort should be going into getting more of that freight onto the rail network.
I never realised they removed the mosaic! I hope it wasn’t destroyed… it was a nice little feature and I think there are increasingly fewer and fewer of these…. just swathes of granite and stainless steel lamposts.
The Parnell lamp is quirky and different and I think we should encourage that as much as possible.
An excellent critique Graham and I agree you should forward it on to the papers…
But I think its a fair point to say that there is a new mentality in the DCC which is gradually undoing a lot of the mistakes of the 70s and 80s. There is also a lot more money about. For example, I couldnt imagine the old Feeley regime having the idea of the Boardwalk or Smithfield. Still the tendancy to drag their heels and ignore simple and obvious solutions to problems remains….
I have to agree ew. They really made a balls up of the stop here. I dont see why they couldnt have rebuilt the original DART ticket hall and included an entrance into the main station for mainline and LUAS links.
The problem with this opinion Alan is that is all very subjective. Who says this building is of tenous historical interest or limited architectural value. Is that your view? In which case, do you accept that others might have an opposing view, indeed that a majority might have an opposing view.
As for protecting our heritage… of course this is important! Surely you as an architect would like to think that one of your designs might last the test of time to be appreciated and used by later generations.
I don’t know the merits of this specific building…maybe it is unworthy of being listed. The fact is however it was listed, so a majority somewhere, at some time, obviously felt it was worth keeping. The manner of its delisting looks very underhand which doesnt suggest that Sligo Council have the highest standards in mind when replacing it.
‘Listing is a dangerous game….’ now there is a dangerous thought! Listing is extremely important. To say it stiffles creativity is rubbish… unlisted sites far outstrip listed sites. There is ample room for architects to express their creativity in Ireland. Listing is a valuable tool which helps to preserve our heritage. Its not all about building new buildings!!
Yes I agree, I was an initial supporter of buyng Lissadell but on ‘mature reflection’ I think the house should be released to the private sector. I think it is important that the state own and maintain significant buildings and I would much rather see the resources proposed for Lissadell House (and indeed Farmleigh – a monument to our 90s excess or what!) used to maintain exisiting owned buidlings. Marino Casino springs to mind (as it is my local monument) which last time I saw it looked well in need of lick of paint and some cleaning.
As for this property in Sligo, I agree that it is a disgrace that the building was delisted by casting vote, especially asthe holder of the original casting vote which prevented delisting was on holiday! Thats sounds very suspicious… Its a crying shame.
There is a lot of development going on no doubt, but how planned is it all? Will we end up with a mishmash of styles and buildings leaving the street without any coherent style or design.
As for the market, proper level paving is required and better lighting and street cleaning. Were DCC to organise and involve the traders in any improvment that would keep the undeniable charm that Moore Street has.
For example – can anyone make sense of the fact that the Harcourt street/St Stephens green section of the luas is not being built on a 24/7 basis to get the thing out the way. Its not a residential area is it? So why not…. [/B]
Therea re lots of hotels around here though?
I wonder will they have any CIE representation… surely the CIE Board must include some FG appointees?
I agree that a motorway/ rail netwrok a balance is required. The gas thing is we are not getting value for money with either option at present. The roads programme so far has resulted in bits of (v expensive) motorway here and there and delays to many projects. As for rail… what is taht Iarnrod Eireann slogan?
I see absolutely no reason why freight is being allowed on to roads instead of rail. Its crazy!
Maybe – Not really sure about this one as I think unified transport authorities that cover rail/ bus/ tram etc are good things. CIE is just a failure due to its make up and management ethos.
No
Yes (with reservations…. I would hate to see the UK model repeated in Ireland)
Yes
I have already stated my preference for the markets to have remained working markets. In addition when you consider this area is stilll very much a residential area with a thriving retail community that has not fallen prey to superstores and supermarkets and the like it seems all the more sad that the markets are being taken away and replace by a hotel of all things. Why a hotel here?
The outdoor market in Temple Bar is only a weekend affair and is too full of ’boutique’ stalls to be considered a proper market that you would use in preference to your nearest Dunnes or Tescos.
Its a shame… and your right Papworth… the right thing to do is staring the CC in the face!
