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Kiosks? Even one….
That poor man selling newspapers outside Permanent TSB is dying for a spanking new kiosk. As is the flowerseller at the Spire… And Helga, just arrived from Sweden, would really, really like a map and some tourist info, not to mention a quick wee. And personally I am dying to taste the coffee mixed with traffic fumes from the street cafes….
DCCs website is not really much help…can anyone else enlighten us.
Anyone with a further interest in the Cty Walls project might find this worth attending:
It would seem the cat is finally starting to use her claws…..
Full Development Description
Retention permission is sought by Emcaol Ltd for retention of existing external shop front signage to existing retail unit at Centra Gresham House, corner of Cathal Brugha St and Marlborough St, Dublin 1.
REFUSE PERMISSION
1. The proposed development by reason of the materials, colour and extent of the signage, together with the application of corporate imaging would be contrary to the implementation of good shop front design, as provided for within the Dublin City Council ‘Shop Front Design Guide’ (2001) and the ‘Shop Front Design Guidelines for the O’Connell Street Area’ (2003). The proposed signage would be visually intrusive, would detract from the character of area, which is located adjacent to the O’Connell Street Architectural Conservation Area and would set an undesirable precedent for further similar developments in the vicinity. Thus, the proposed development would be contrary to the policies and objectives of the Dublin City Development Plan 2005-2011 and would be contrary to the proper planning and sustainable development of the areaAnd
Planning Permission sought by Ashglen Property Company Limited for provision of off-licence (18 sqm) subsidiary to the main retail use at Spar, Retail Unit 4, 35-41 Parnell Street, Dublin 1.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
1. The existing shopfront signage appears to be unauthorised. There are a proliferation of corporate colours and signs on the premises, including one no. projecting sign and a large number of stickers on the windows/doors. The applicant is requested to provide details of the grant of planning permission for the existing shopfront signage, including projecting sign to the premises. The applicants are advised to contact the Planning Authority, in this regard, prior to the submission of the Additional Information.Its seems DCC are making a conscious effort to rein in the convenience stores. I have notticed an increasing number of Planning Applications being refered to the Good Shopfront Design Guidelines.
@ctesiphon wrote:
I do remember one case where a sign was attached to a bike rack on Dame Street saying that any bikes left there a week later would be removed. It never came to pass, possibly because someone in DCC realised (or had it pointed out to them) that it’s not unlikely a person would lock their bike in town for a week or more and go on holidays. (Not to be recommended, it’s true, but there’s no law against it.)
I recall a similar sign. I presumed it had come to pass and that the bikes form part f the Garda auction. Oh well another unsolvable problem for the city. Better put down a few hundred more racks then…. I wonder what the do in Amsterdam..Copenhagen…..etc
And the disqualification period! Poor aul Geraldine will be out of action for a little longer than 2 years. Im sure the guy is desperately sorry but I would have thought a longer disqualification is in order.
@a boyle wrote:
there is a metro stop there already .
I though you two might be the same person….:D The for and against side of the arguement. Its happened here before!
I would be surprised if ABP stopped this. Its a major piece of cultural infrastructure and the precedent has already been set of a stadium in a residential area. Did DCC attach any notable conditions. I must look up the planning file.
Good news!
I agree too… how many parents shopping with the kids on Henry Street (and of course the soon to expand O’Connell Street) would like to skip off to a playground with the kids for an hour to relax. Kids running wild about the GofR is not really in keeping with the idea behind the garden. Parnell Street is meant to be developed as a cultural destination for all dubs, kids included. I think a playground here is a great idea.
Awww come on…you know the way by know. All these things are done. They just never seem to be done. LOL
@a boyle wrote:
I don’t think the gardai would be allowed to simply collect the hundreds of wrecked bicycles . Even if they were allowed they won’t do it as it would cost them a fair bit to dispose of them all. they would want to be able to charge the owners.
with all the computers and things around , a fairly simple system for registring you bicycle could be put in place at modest cost.
Actually they do this already (or rather the city council do) and the bikes are auctioned once a year from Kevin Street station.
@lostexpectation wrote:
is this new?
more trees down in the garden of remembrance, what is it with street planners and wanting to replace everything with paving slabs? they easily put an entrance in the back without cutting a corner out of the park
No the plan has been around for a while now. You should read back a few pages. The plan for the north-west corner (Im assuming thats what you refer to) is for a small children playground if I am not mistaken. The new entrance to the GofR (currently under con struction ) is opposite the Hugh Lane
Considering how dramtic and realistic many development proposals can look, this one looks plain silly…perhaps refreshingly so.
They’re not. I imagine the DCC will wait until September to get things moving although I understood that the CC had extended the contract of the group undertaking the O’Connell Street works to complete Parnell Square. I also understood that the final proposals for the Square were to go on public display but I never heard anything more.
Yes I think you are right a (can I call you a? :p ). So many of these new schemes seem to depend on restaurants and convenience stores. The idea of creating a destination dining area is a little more complex than simply providing a load of upmarket restuarnts in a swanky building. I think Stack A needs a big idea. I also think all this restaurant business is a little premature until the Abbey moves to Georges Dock…..remember that imminent announcement! :confused: However even that may not be enough as Marlborogh Street will testify to. I think a specialist arthouse would be a good idea….and maybe even a cinema.
Le Grand Projet de Mons McDowell…. 😀
Mountjoy site to be developed as urban village
Mountjoy Prison will be turned into a village complex housing several thousand people under plans for the site announced yesterday by Minister for Justice Michael McDowell, writes Stephen Collins, Political Correspondent
The Minister also provided details about his plans for a new prison on a 150-acre site at Thornton Hall, north Co Dublin, to replace Mountjoy.
He confirmed that the Central Mental Hospital would move from its location in Dundrum to the new site.
“For decades the lack of space and the poor physical infrastructure in Mountjoy Prison has impacted severely on the prison system to provide even the most basic services for prison rehabilitation. In the area of work and training, medical facilities and education, the building is simply not fit for purpose,” said Mr McDowell.
“Those who object to the closure of Mountjoy Prison cannot at the same time expect the dedicated staff who work in our prisons to deliver a 21st century model of correctional excellence in a 19th century physical environment.”
He said his concerns about the inadequacy of Mountjoy and the need for change were shared by many, including members of the Irish Prison Service interim board, the Inspector of Prisons and the Council of Europe.
“The Government’s decision to vacate Mountjoy and create a new prison complex allows us to grasp a unique opportunity to reinvent the existing site as a new and vibrant place to live and work in the Dublin of the 21st century.
“We want to take this opportunity to engage with Dublin City Council to create a new village for Dublin which will allow families to live and work in the centre of the city in a sustainable way,” said Mr McDowell.
He added that the Mountjoy regeneration project would be carried out under the direction of the Office of Public Works, with a design team headed by one of the country’s foremost architectural firms, Heneghan Peng.
“I look forward to seeing the inventive and inspiring solutions which they will propose for the historic structures to be retained on the site and the relationship to be formed with the adjoining canal and streets.
“When one thinks of the redevelopment proposals for Grangegorman, the Mater, Dalymount Park, Phibsboro, as well as Mountjoy itself, it is no exaggeration to say that in a few years time this part of Dublin will be transformed.
“Our challenge is to ensure that Mountjoy will transcend its myths and memories and become a best-practice example of urban development and a credit to Dublin city,” said Mr McDowell.
Shi-Fu Peng, the design team leader, said it was important to recognise that Dublin was a city of villages, and the new Mountjoy village would contribute to that urban fabric.
He added that the canal as a new public green space would play an important part in the design.
Dealing with the issue of the new prison, Mr McDowell said that over the past few months the Prison Service and its technical advisers had been working hard on developing the master plan and outline design of the new facilities at Thornton Hall.
“The new prison will be driven by innovation, with a unique layout incorporating the latest technology, thus generating savings in operating costs.
The new prison complex will have a range of institutions, with differing security levels and regimes all within a secure perimeter. There will also be room on the site for running tracks, football pitches so that prisoners can have physical exercise.
“The development will be sensitive to the local environment, and every effort will be made to minimise the visual impact of the development on the local community. A major boundary planting and landscaping scheme has been completed and when this matures it will substantially reduce the visual impact.”
During the press conference at the Department of Justice there was a small protest outside by local residents objecting to the Thornton Hall development.
© The Irish Times
They have! They currently have plans under consideration by DCC to demolish a number of the listed buildings and create a new complex with a gateway opposite Moss Street.
A point about this whole area is that it is seen as attractive regardless of whether Luas uses it or not. There is already a huge amount of activity around here.
However the point still remaijns that Luas down from the Green to O’Connell St via Pearse would be too long a journey. Then conside that from Abbey Street the Luas continues to Broadstone and Grangegorman under Transport 21. This means the whole length of the street given over to Luas, as well as Parnell Square East I imagine.
Trinity have already showns signs that they are of a mind to return their holdings to retail.
I think Trinty are more interested in developing the street for campus needs rather than retail. You only have to consider the three major scheme recently put forward to see that.
yes you are right to be concerned about the fact that trinity own half the street , but your concern is misplaced. They current want to redevelop the street , and they need the money . a luas on pearse street would provide irresistable impetus for change. consider the value of redevelopping the street to trinity , hundreds of millions that could go to new facilities!
True but to what end. Its not really suitable for largescale retail use. The competition it faces from other areas for this is considerable…think of Smithfield, Markets and Abbey, Marlborough, Talbot Streets. Residential would be problematic due to the large number of social housing estates off the street and the nature of the buildinsg along the street. There is lots of scope to the north of Pearse Street and this seems to be developing fast but its no help to Trinity.
Undoubtably you have a point about the Pearse-Westland Row routing; I just think its a non-runner for the simple fact that it would take too long to travel what could more easily be walked and it would be too expensive to build. Im not really sure that the rejuventaion of Pearse would be helped by Luas. There are plenty of more attractive sites for intensive uses in the city centre. Pearse Street is a more complex kettle of fish I think because of the size and nature of its principal resident.
Duplication of the Luas and Metro lines is of course a valid point although many city transit systems have duplication. Its by no means a bad thing. I think people will be taking Metro and Luas from St Stephens Green for differing reasons.
O’Connell Bridge under-used! Are you mad. Its the busiest through route in the city surely, I would agree that a new bridge across the river would not be ideal but a light structure soley for use by Luas would be a small price to pay for greater public space on O’Connell Street. There was an article a few weeks back where the city traders assoc was also pushing for the new transport routes to be sent down Marlborough Street. They pointed to the possibility of creating a new stop at the current Dof Education with a public space in front of the Pro Cathedral (previosuly mooted in a plan for Cathedral Street). I think its ideal. It would remove the bus park from M St and return the street to some semblence opf normal usuage . The real estate potential along this street wont go unrealised for long.
Im not sure I get what you are saying about D’Olier Street. The M St route still allowed for the Luas to go in front of Trinty along College Green. We all know that the Pearse Street -Westland Row route is a non-runner.
