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The new scheme at the corner of Dorset and Granby Row is actually an hotel. I havent seen any images of it but my guess is the standard design coming through with new builds in the city recently. I think I remember the initial proposals were shot down by DCC due to the sensitive nature of the site as a key part of the north Georgian core and the emerging cutural quarter around Parnell Square.
I must further down Dorset Street the new streetworks look great. It really gives the whole street a lift.
Good to see them back isnt it. And new trees have been planted in most of the missing sections. I garee with your comments about the traffic signals Graham. It follows on with earlier comments about clutter on the street, regasrding the bike stands, telephone kiosks (all Smart’s are now out of use and derelict looking) and other bits and bobs that DCC seem to be happy to put in.
It seems the cast iron vents that were located at the Parnell Monument prior to the revamp have returned. They were being reinstated today in the same spot.
The wrapping came off Irish Permanent yesterday. All clean again. White windows as predicted. New floodlighting that is far too bright…it looks so out of place along side more subtle lighting such as GPO and Central Bar. And of course they hung on to their signage. What a shame. Here was the perfect chance for DCC to get to grips with the big illuminated signage along the street. Im disappointed.
Also…even though it planting season there is no sign of those 10 missing trees from OConnell Street. Or the kiosks.
How original – a middle class vs working class slant to the whole debate. Its true I have never seen a working class person (from Sheriff Street by the sounds of your post) driving a car – how novel would that be. And of course most working class people are also immune to advertising.
Yes, although the theatre will still be in use until next Dec so it is unlikely that any plans will have been finalised by then. The design is more or less agreed but no planning has been submitted.
I have actually had a chance to look at the whole package of street furniture that JCD are installing. There are bike stations, public conveniences (surely long over due in the city), street signage and maps (more or less the same as the stuff recently put in around docklands, high quality, colourful and also much needed), a heritage trail (also good stuff) and finally these advertising structure which actually do not look half bad, the smaller units especially. There are problems with the scheme not least the complete lack of information and public display being offered by DCC however the ‘family’ of street furniture (as they call it) is really quite attractive and very functional and I think would transform the streets. Its very important however that for what goes up, stuff comes down. This means billboard and assorted street junk. But most of all this needs an urgent PR exercise to salavage what could potentially be a very good things for the city.
Yes! I knew I saw this somewhere – good work Phil. The whole point was to reduce all those nasty hoardings on the gables of buildings.
Hmm it sounds to me that the City need to undertake a bit of a public relations exercise. Not all of what is proposed here is bad but the way the scheme has been rolled out casing concern. I think they should have a public consulation and invite comments. For example will the provision of new signage replace all the crap thats there now, cant the City set up a trial bike stand to show what it will be like, and how about publishing an proper analysis of where all the metropoles will go so that we can at least see some proper planning of the scheme.
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I would prefer to see a comprehensive redevelopment of this area than a replication of the piecemeal development of the sites surrounding Findlater House most of which will probably come down again over the next few years having gone up late 1990’s.
Im not sure you can compare like with like. The section of the street with Findlaters House has only three other properties fronting OC Street and they are all historically smaller plots. ‘Frazers’ the largest looks likes a bad pastiche job alright and perhaps a more suitable replacement can be considered.
Quote:My guess is that this site will form part of the wider Carlton scheme and the real value of the site is certainly the ability to create large retail floor plates with the level of profit determined by the number of apartments on top]I agree about forming part of the Carlton site…I would imagine that the developer is loking for a Parnell Street facade as well. It would be worth keeping a eye on the site beside Jurys Inn as well as the two pubs here. The last proposal for the site adjoining Jurys was shot down last year. Among the problems was it fell victim to proposed road widening of the rear landway here (is it call Moore Lane).
I disagree with your call for a continaution of the Carlton facade. I think the fact that somany monolithic looking facades were put up here since the 1960s was one of the problems. A smaller more human scale is required, even if what is behind the facade is uniform floorplates. I think a break in the streetscape here and the creation of a new street are called for.
No need to go that far! Like all the poles erected in the city (and much of the road works) Sierra is your only man!
I have to say I would wonder if they just erect poles on their own initative (and forward the bill) or does someone have a fetish in City Hall and keep asking for more, more, more….yes, yes, yes……Great to see the Olympia being active in restoring the canopy. What a bizzare reason for not going ahead though…no granite! Do you think a member of the public could get access to the Marrowbone Lane Works depot where all the old paving is rumoured to lie…gathering moss as it were.
Yes, I’d say the proposed revamp has definately been shelved (won’t this 2 years take it past the 5 years since planning was granted?). The area is falling victim to landbanking.
I also got on to my councillor this morning….a bit late maybe. I am intrigued by your post ctesiphon….
Well I have to agree that was incredibly well done for an RTE news story…traffic noise at a minumum in the background, no interviews in the middle of a dual carriage way, no long lingering shots of the windows of the Four Courts 🙂
Well done to Kevin at An Taisce for getting some media coverage of this because that is the one thing that is gauranteed to get action.
It seems we are in for a blitz on our city’s streets by June….a whole new signage system and the advertisment signage. Still I would like to see a bit of planning and some aesthetic vision applied. There are litterly hundreds if not thousands of inapproriate signs littering the city, not just these H frames. Save out streetscapes DCC!
GrahamH said: Also here they are about a year ago – nothing’s changed except the blind shop has closed I think
Nothings changed except the original sliding doors were all removed and roller shutters were added instead. And the blind shops changed awning (remember they all had the same awning that needed to be tied to the benches – surely a design classic) is still in place long after it vacated.
Get rid of these things. Poorly conceived, poorly designed and poorly managed. They are a blight on this bridge. Perhaps they can be used elsewhere in the city (I would suggest some modifications to them though) but they certainly should be removed from this location. I would be disappointed if only two were removed and two left in place. Take them all away.
Also on Grattan Bridge – how about the glass-backed bench that has been broken since last year…anyone considering repairing it?
And further down at Ha’penny bridge: I walked across the bridge last night and unfortunately no one thought that when they installed uplighters at each side of the bridge they might need to replace the bulbs every so often. They have been out for months now, maybe years … only two working. Shame on you DCC!
Yes I agree Devin….. well done all round. I know An Taisce have already made a case to the Planning Enforcment unit and received some good press and it is easy to see your point! Convenience stores are surely the new scourge of the city.
This is great news. A welcome recognition that the use of kiosk here was a mistake. Hwoever, one of the unfortunate side effects of all this IMO is that kiosks are now seen as a bad idea…which is a pity because in the right locations they can work well. However, one and a half years on from grant of permission there are no kiosks on O’Connell Street yet, and I wouldnt be surprised if the idea had been parked. The kiosk at Smithfield Luas stop also remains unlet.
On a related topic: the balustrades on both Butt Bridge and more importantly O’Connell Street need to be looked at ASAP and repairs undertake. Its shameful that these bridges are in such a mess. I’d like to see a plan for the bridges considered by the CC to bring them all back up to scratch. It should look at maintainence and cleaning, relaying of pavements which in most cases is awful pour concrete or tarmac, and decent ornamental lighting rather than the industrial estate stuff currently being used.
