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For everyones convenience i’ve cut and uploaded the supplied images that went with the planning permission. I haven’t had the time to go through the rest of the documentation but will do over the coming days.
Here is another image of the proposed development. cant seem to attach any images to this site, Or link to images from potobucket for some reason, but here is hard copy of link to image.
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/partygaming/inside-1.jpg
also front page if intrested
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/partygaming/front.jpg
And you’re right there is a mountain of development lined up now, With no chance i think of starting anytime soon. Its still rater impressive all the same. If the economoy takes off again, Then there should be nice building boom going on right within the heart of the city. big job creator
Interesting project. not sure what the time frame is or if there is anyone. it would be good if they had a website showing what they propose. Or have they? Link? I am one who would love to see this project go ahead as soon as, but realistic i think its not going to happen. there will still be problems raising money for this development specially when property prices are still falling. Also the fact that many business will have to be relocated will surly hold up the project for few years
What i find most interesting, is the proposed ‘Ford Experience’, I am very excited to find out more on this. Good to hear something like this been incorporated into the plan.
€750m Cork Marina project promises to create 1,200 jobs By Eoin EnglishWednesday, August 11, 2010
A MASSIVE €750 million regeneration project for one of the country’s most iconic industrial sites was unveiled last night with the promise of up to 1,200 construction jobs.
The redevelopment of the 24-acre Marina Commercial Park (MCP) in the heart of Cork city’s docklands is expected to create a further 5,000 jobs once completed.
It has the largest private river frontage in Cork city and has 500,000 square feet of buildings with 150 businesses on site, employing approximately 1,500 people.
MCP director Gerry Wycherley said he wants to establish a vibrant, socially inclusive community within the city’s south docklands, where people will live, work and enjoy their leisure time.
“We are confident that our proposed development will provide significant economic and employment benefit for the people of Cork into the future,” he said.
The proposed development features:
* More than 800 apartments, providing homes for up to 2,230 people.
* A marina where they can park their boats.
* A range of community amenities.
* A visitor and science centre, the Ford Experience, which is expected to attract up to 300,000 visitors annually.
* A new central plaza to provide a hub for the community, including a creche and library.
City manager Joe Gavin said: “This 24-acre site is at the heart of Cork’s docklands and the announcement is a crucial step in realising Cork City Council’s vision for the whole docklands area.”
http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/750m-cork-marina-project-promises-to-create-1200-jobs-127563.html
Seem that the Sarsfield Road to Bandon Road improvement is going ahead now. Still wasn’t sure it was even with the press releases by some of our finest politicians 😉 But its gone out to tender and only about 10 years too late. But hey we will take it still. Plenty more projects that i could think of but don’t think any of them will be happening any time soon
http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/sh…x?ID=APR147155
N25 South Ring Road – Sarsfield Road to Bandon Road – Road Improvement Scheme
Published by: Cork City Council
Publication Date: 12/04/2010
Application Deadline: 17/05/2010
Notice Deadline Date: 24/05/2010
Notice Deadline Time: 12:00
Notice Type: Contract Notice
Has Documents: No
Abstract: The works consist of the upgrading of 3km of the N25 South Ring Road including the grade separation of both the Bandon Road and Sarsfield Road Roundabouts, the demolition of footbridges at both roundabouts, the construction of parallel link roads between the roundabouts, the construction of slip roads to and from the N25 South Ring Road to meet these roundabouts or the parallel roads, upgrading the approach roads to both roundabouts, the construction of new cyleways/footpaths and all ancillary works therewith.
The main construction activities will be demolition, piling operations, ground improvement earthworks, drainage, earthworks, reinforced earth construction, concrete construction, bridge erection, road construction, road surfacing, service diversions, installation of road signs including gantry signs, installation of noise barriers, installation of traffic signals, provision of road markings, public lighting, landscaping, fencing and accomodation works.
CPV: 45233100.Seems to sum up the dockland situation quite well. Oh well maybe in another life time 🙁
Cork Docklands project swept down River Lee!
By Archon Saturday January 2nd, 2010AH, dearie me! The two billion euro plan to build a town the size of Kilkenny in the dockland area of Cork has been swept down the swanee, or to be more precise, down the Lee. It turned out to be a shadow without substance, an optical illusion, and of such stuff as dreams are made of!
The Docklands project was to be one of the biggest high-density urban developments in Ireland, housing 20,000 residents and employing 25,000 people.
Tower blocks situated on the Centre Park Road, Kennedy Road and the South Docklands Quay-side were intended to change the city skyline and surpass Dublin. Cork would become one of the most attractive locations for investment in Europe. At least, that’s what the developers said.
Planners, politicos and property tycoons salivated at the thought of constructing offices, hotels, shops, apartments, a university, a Sydney Harbour-style cultural centre, leisure facilities, parks, public spaces, pedestrian routes, a new marina, and a public transport system that included a railway, a railway station and a bus station. Oh, and two new bridges were to link the city to the docklands area.
MAKE THINGS HAPPEN
The brains behind the scheme were the Tedcastle Group and Howard Holdings, whose CEO, Greg Coughlan from Ballydehob, said two years ago: “Development interests were attracted to locations where there was an air of making things happenâ€.
And, by gum, things were certainly going to happen in Cork although Greg also warned that serial objectors threatened the gigantic project.
He needn’t have worried. As with the great property plans of others, Greg’s dream took a nosedive, thanks to the thieving bankers, FF stupidity, economic meltdown, etc., etc.
To make matters worse, the Fianna Fail crowd never had much faith in the project -perhaps because Owen O’Callaghan (Mickey and Batto’s butty), was always skeptical about the project and didn’t sink any of his cash into it.
Not so Greg Coughlan who paid nearly €30 million in 2005 for the 12-acre Ford factory site and €10 million for a half-acre site next to City Hall only to see the brave new world vaporising before his eyes.
With the crash, the buyers queuing to see the plans for the 6,000 apartments disappeared. To cap it all, Howard Holdings’ jewel in the crown, Coventry Airport, for which it paid fifteen million smackers three years ago, shut its gates forever.
NAIL IN THE COFFIN
Indeed, two of Howard Holdings whiz kids have moved on to a new outfit, Clowater Investments, which will manage many of the Howard assets and sites that were previously handled by Anglo Irish Bank.
Then, Brian Lenihan put the nail in the coffin by his failure to make any mention of the Docklands project in his budget speech. He said nothing about tax incentives, or grants for preliminary work and nothing to convince shareholders or investors that the plan was going ahead.
Even the novice TD and ex-RTE prophet of doom, George Lee, got in on the act. During a visit to Cork, he declared the focus should shift from seeking Government funding, presumably on the basis that the developers wouldn’t get any. (He was lucky not to be lynched by Cork Fine Gael for whom the Docklands was their pet project).
Yet, hope springs eternal for Leesiders. The City Council now asserts that approximately 15% of the Docklands plan will go ahead, even without the new bridges or roads being put in place or, for that matter, without raising the ground level of the entire area to alleviate flooding.
The Council points to the fact that planning permission already has been granted for a swathe of apartments, offices, bars, restaurants and a hotel. Their confidence, however, has to be taken with the proverbial grain of salt because it’s based on the premise that one day the economy will pick up, things will change and the masses will stream towards the Marina, mad keen to live in the new shiny apartments.
When the economy picks up, the thinking goes, everything again will be bathed in warm golden Leeside sunlight, just as in the days of wine and roses.
In the meantime, Corkonians have been left scratching their heads, wondering what remains of their phantom city. The answer is simple: nothing but a fool’s paradise, a cock and bull story and the mess left over from other people getting rich (and some very poor) while building castles in the air!
Hey came across these pictures of new library off the Frinailla web site and this press release . general up beat stuff that you’d get from developer…
But i got to say i like this design of what i see of it. it’s not too high. it’s imposing in a good way which will break the curves of street scape nicely and at the same thing modernise the street which is over due it.
coming to think of it the street will be totaly different in say 3-4 years once all projects are complete i.e capital and all that block that the library is on etc.
PRESS RELEASE – 9th AUGUST 2007
New state-of-the-art Grand Parade Development
Jewel in the Crown of Cork City
Frinailla Developments will today lodge a planning application for a new state-of-the-art Grand Parade development which will include a world class library facility, retail/ office development as well as quality residential units that will lead to the re-population of a major part of Corks historical core. The development will potentially serve as a catalyst for the regeneration of Grand Parade, South Main Street and the wider environs west of the cities commercial core.
Cork City’s commitment and contribution to the Arts and academic culture is already well established, boasting Ireland’s leading research institute, UCC, and will now be further enhanced as an academic community with a new and improved library facility. Designed by award winning architects Reddy O’Riordain Staehli & Associates, the new city library will be a distinctive civic building with a high street presence and unique profile.
The proposed new city library has a gross floor area of 5,640 m sq or over 60,000 square feet provided over five floors and is more than twice the size of the current library. The new state-of-the-art library is set to become a quality landmark building in Cork City. It is acknowledged that the current Cork City Central Library is no longer adequate in size or in facilities for a city of Cork’s population or status. While the City Library has established itself as an integral feature of the city’s civic and cultural landscape, however the profile of the library does not fully reflect how important the building is as a resource. The quality of the fabric of the existing building is also poor and this is both detrimental to library stock and the image and status of the library within the city.
The key objectives and components of the design of the new city library include the following: the retention of Cork’s principal public library at its current Grand Parade location including the retention of its 1930s Hiberno-Celtic/ Art-Deco façade and to design and construct a sustainable building using energy efficient passive technology. Also the new library will be ambitious in terms of its service and facilities, offering not just a depository of books, but also a place of learning which offers a wide range of adult education classes, career support training together with ancillary meeting areas, a café and a venue for arts and leisure pursuits. The library will provide new services and venues not currently available to the library user such as the multi-purpose auditorium and purpose designed music rooms. Environmental benefits include using natural ventilation, maximising the use of natural light, passive solar energy and the harvesting of rainwater.
The concept for the new expanded City Library is bourn out of both the present and future needs of the Library service as well as the City’s soaring ambition which saw it designated as the European Capital of Culture 2005. The development of enhanced cultural and retail attractions on Grand Parade and the synergy generated will greatly enhance the profile of the Grand Parade and the city.
The proposed mixed use redevelopment anchored by a new and expanded City Library will allow the library to fulfil its function as an integral part of the educational, cultural and artistic fabric of the city. The development of enhanced cultural and retail attractions on Grand Parade and the synergy generated by both on a combined site is in accordance with the policies and objectives of the Cork City Development Plan and will enhance the profile of the city centre.
New street frontages will be constructed on Grand Parade and South Main Street and the present imbalance in the percentage of quality commercial space currently in the area will be addressed through the provision of a wide variety of retail and commercial facilities. Through the process of good urban design it is hoped to project a contemporary image and deliver an integrated development that will help boost the city pride and see the economic and social benefits spread over a wide area.
Also, the development will house a major new tourist attraction for the City. The Cork Hall of Fame will consist of a permanent exhibition, paying homage to those individuals who have made outstanding contributions to the development of a positive awareness of Cork on the international scene.
This ambitious development is expected to add to an already progressive and dynamic city culture providing the city with an improved central information resource right in the centre of the city. An area that was previously under-developed, this new development that includes a brand-new and contemporary apartment structure will inject life into this area of Cork City.
A spokesperson for Frinailla Developments said: “We are delighted with our new vision for a new world class central library for Cork City. The significance of the contribution that the development will make towards the urban regeneration of the area should not be underestimated. The Grand Parade which has been home of the current library since 1930 is steeped in history and it seems fitting that Cork should have a building of such cultural and civic importance at its core. With a new plaza, new residents and new quality shopping and leisure activities, the Central Library will at last have a home worthy of its presence and a building based on the best in contemporary library design – innovative and distinctive as well as evocative of the new sense of confidence that surrounds the city of Cork.â€
Architects RepresentationCso just out still looking at it and to me it shows that the city realy have to sort out the boundary issue as it realy is
affecting how people perceve cork. This is a great city that has a real good feel about it at moment with all thats
planned in next few years i’d imangine that for next census the population for city will be way up from current low level.________ _____ Persons 2002 _|_______ 2006________ Male ________ Female ________ Change ________ Percentage change
Cork ___________ 447,829 ________ 480,909________ 240,470_______240,439 ________ 33,080 ________ 7.4
of whichCork City _______ 123,062 ________ _119,143________ 58,214________ 60,929 ________ -3,919 ________ -3.2
Cork County ______ 324,767 ________ _361,766 ________182,256 ________179,510 _______36,999 ________ 11.4
I find it intresting the break down of population in the cork city area. in that it was the only urban area in the country to record a population decrease in last census.
Now there was an article in the examiner yesterday that stated the main reason for this was lack of development land within the city boundarys (which i agree with other than docks). they went on to say that the city fathers are looking to extending the boundary into county council areas ( which i think is long over due as services would be easyer to plan)
But the article says that some councilers are saying not an inch:mad: 😡
Now my questions are these:confused:
1. do you think that the county council will give in and surender loads of land around the city and end up losing loads in commercial rates
2. Where do you think city fathers are looking to have the boundary lines drawn. such are they looking for huge amounts of land(Like waterford which is looking for land a few times bigger than the whole city) or just to include the established suburbs back into the city boundary??
3.What do you think the population would be once the boundarys are re-drawn.
4.:) PLUS does any one want to try and guess what the population of county and population of city will be once the latest cso figures are released. I’M guessing theres going to be huge increase due the huge amount of eastern europeans in the county/city
I dont know if everyone on this form knows this as i just stumbled acroos a really good site about cork city where there ‘s a huge amount of maps a pictures of the city from the olden years ha .
But they have stuff like a 1545: Plan of Cork city 1 photo
Custom House Yard 2 photo
to the more recent such as the 3photo.
Sample of tidal waterway under city-centre streets. Most of these waterways were culverted in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. This old waterway was exposed near the junction of St Patrick’s Street and Grand Parade during pavement refurbishment in February 2005.
This is actually realy intresting when you think of it as cork was once just small islands criss crossed by the river lee as shown in the first photo and most the streets in the centre island (city centre) have the lee running under it .So here the web site if anyone wants to check it out.
http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/p.s. hope the pictures turn out right first time trying to upload.
+ i’m well looking forward to seeing what the plans are for grand parade specially after joe galvin
said in the echo the other day that he is expecting 4 major retail , office and appartment plans to be lodged within 6 months for grand parade…. mmmmmWell i got to say driving around the city these days is quiet Surreal these days with construction sites spring up all around the city it’s great to see cork booming and may i say about time because we didn’t get our fair share of the celtic tiger in the early years. but we are sure catching up fast.:D 😀 😀
and with the huge amount of space the docklands can afford us the city is going to be almost unreckonisable within 5-15 years and for the best. there is some massive plans in the pipeline such asEglinton Street starting next month and major retails development plans going to be lodged soon for the city centre i.e. Academy Street etc. Also the jobs front looks good with 1,400 new high paid jobs been announced in two days theres huge confidance in the city at the moment. and a very good write up in the lastest loney planet guide about cork. alls looking good
another thing i heard the population of cork city is ment to be down again with a huge amount of people now living outside city boundaries but still within the urban make up of the city. why doesn’t city hall look for a boundry extention which is badly needed, and would help making planning for the city for the future and bring in extra money . limerick , waterford and a few others are activly looking for extentions. in waterfords case i dont know why they are looking for an extention and they have huge sways of green fields within the boundry which isn’t the case with cork.:confused:One last thing just a bit of fun who do you think will put planning into city hall first
1. The retail development on grand parade to incorporate a number of shops and one old shabby cinema
OR
2. The redevelopment of the train station and everything that goes with it (History of draging feet)
Time frames anybody????
Does anyone have a picture of the building that was there before the works started on the school of music??
It sure has got quiet around here latly??
Thats good to know at least there exploring all options for location for event centre
other than the tiny 2,000 seater arena on offer at the train station but the sooner
an area is picked the better i think.
so they could plan the design for the center and start working on it any time soon.
This building would be a very nice addition to the ever changing city. And bring alot more options to every one in the city in regards to concerts and conferences being held there. It would save alot of people a trip to dublin!!On another note drove past the new jurys site the other day and i’ve got to say i’m very impressed by how fast it is going up.
Does any one know whats happening to the esso garage next to the jurys site as it was up for sale. not sure if sold or not??
Did any one have a look at the echo today??
Had a quick look as went in to shop today but didn’t have time to read it.
The whole front page was taken up with a heading something similar totalks being held over 8,000 seater arena in showgrounds 😮
Or somthing like that. :p
Does any one have any more information on this as it’s recking my head as
can’t get to shop as to busy. If it pans out this would be great news!!Ya i would like ryanair to take a more active role in cork airport as there is more than enought demand for it weather you be going out of the country on holidays or tourists coming in. I know alot of people from cork are heading to shannon because of the choice of cheap flights thanks to ryanair. I think this is a big lose to the cork area as cork has a bigger catchment area . 🙁
such is the boom in tourism in the limerick area because of the cheap flights out of shannon that within the next 2 years 1,000 new hotel rooms will be added to the city capacity which is quiet a big jump.
Facts On New Terminal
Area 26,500 sq. metres
Capacity for 3 million passengers annually
32 check-in desks
4 Air-bridges
5 baggage belts
I’ve also got a question i though the new terminal had a capacity for 3 million the below quote is taken from the air rianta cork web site . ye say the capacty is 2.5 million but this makes no sence as that figure is going to be achived this year . Correct me if i’m wrong but i think the new terminal has a capacty for 3million and the design incorporated alows for expancion at a later date 5+ years to 5+ million not sure how many air bridges are there though
Any terninal is a huge inprovement than whats there as the current one has a capacity is officially 1.1 million passengers per annum
I’d like ryanair to take the old terminal over other than it being turned into officesQUOTE:/
The new terminal will utilise glass, steel and timber materials in a graceful, contemporary design, which maximises the effects of light and space under a single-span curved roof structure. The building is designed to manage a capacity of up to five million passengers per annum over time, with the potential addition of a new pier and side extensions when required.
QUOTE:+ does anyone know the actual opening date???
Does any one have any thoughts on the new transport plan released yesterday??
For such a big plan there doesn’t seem to be much information available on it.It looks like alot of the plan is centred in dublin which is a shame because we should be
promoting other parts of the country as places to live and help promote the so farr failed sacial plan.any ideas on what projects on due for cork other that the rail system.
I think there should have been more in it for cork it would help present it as a real
option to live other than dublin!!!!!!!!!!111Big Fan of the forum I’ve been watching it for a good while now but never got to signing up
but hey here i am now just a few quick things to say/ask1. I hope cork dont lose out in getting an events arena cause its badly needed and i would think
around kent station would be a good area for it because it would help draw people from not only out side the county but outside munster with its conveneance along with better public transport to the venueWhat is worrying me about this is the fact that limerick is planing there own 8,000 seater arena as well
which could hurt the cork bid for a big arena if they get in there before us. heres a linkhttps://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=40823&postcount=4142.I love the plans for dennys cross but worry about objections throwing the project off course specialy with the history of objections for the area to anything over 2 floors!!!
3. Whens the plan coming out for the north docklands being redeveloped by howard holdings ??? looking forward to that 🙂
p.s. ye’ll be hearing alot more from me 😉
