THE_Chris
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@Praxiteles wrote:
Not since An Bord Pleannala’s decision in relation to Cobh Cathedral. One of the great things to emerge from the Midleton Oral Hearing was the concept of “liturgical law” which came as a great shock to many of the “liturgists” purporting to wreck Cobh Cathedral. These gents. failed to distinguished bewteen what the Church “requires” for the liturgy and the half baked ideas they picked up along the way that ultimately go back to the daft Pius Parsch of Klosterneuburg. Of course when they were making their depositions to the PA they failed to see the distinction and represented their own nonsense as a Church “requirement” when it was no such thing!
Reading those paragraphs, it seems to me that the entire law can be taken by both parties. The “For” crowd can read it and say they are perfectly in their rights to do it, and the “Against” crowd can read it and say that they have no right to do it. The law is wishy-washy in its makeup.
Especially 08, where the “For” crowd claimed they were respecting the Cathedral architecture, and the “Against” crowd saying they were not respecting it.
Both parties then go steaming into a battle, of the sort that has, regrettably, divided Cobh 🙁
I think too that Galway City Council should get their fingers out and upgrade the Bishop O Donnell / Seamus Quirke road. Plans have been out there for years, but its never started.
That road is still on the long finger though, think post-2010 before construction begins if recent trends continue.
There should not be a 40,000 tonne oil terminal built. Thats stupid, building it right next to the city. Build it somewhere else where oil trucks wont be sitting in traffic for ages.
Just out of sheer and complete interest, how much would the average stencil painting of a sanctuary cost, or are you allowed to reveal that to a forum?
mmm maybe, but building it back at the start with 3 lanes each way and colossal freeflow junctions would have seemed like a huge white elephant at a time when the country had little money. So I can understand why it was built as it was.
That said, they should have started the upgrade several years ago, and should have linked the barrier free tolling arrangements in with the Port Tunnel opening. What we have now is a mishmash of different schemes, and we are now in the middle of the problem points inbetween their completions.
Frank Taylor wrote:Another way to look at this is that the price paid is determined by the buyer and not by the profit margin for the seller. NTR may only stand to gain 300m by retaining the concession but the government may stand to gain far more than 600m if removing the toll bridge enables them to toll the entire motorway. An analogy is the case where a developer stands to make €]
I was wondering that too. Seems odd to me. I remember when they built the Jack Lynch tunnel in Cork they wanted to toll it, but because it was built with EU funding, the EU quite politely told them what orifice they could shove their funding up if they tried to toll.Would be interesting to know what the EU think of them NOW trying to toll large sections of the M50 even though it was structural funding that built it.
@james1852 wrote:
Hi, I have followed your discussions with great interest over the last few months and I totally agree that all the distruction of these beautiful church buildings has to stop. No one has seen these drastic changes more than our own firm. We are the oldest decorating firm in the country specialising in ecclesiastical decoration,est. 1852.We have a large archive of architectural drawings, photographs and stencil designs of churches throughout the whole country.Most of our work nowadays is restoring the stencilwork that had been whitewashed over following vatican 2We worked recently in St.Colmans and Rushbrooke restoring the crib figures and painted statues.We are finding that there is a trend going back to old style decoration again.
Not your fault I know, but its a shame that Ballymores crib statues werent done too. I drove there over Christmas and saw that Baby Jesus happens to be missing several fingers. The rest of the statues etc arent in the best condition either. A shame 🙁
Yes. I put together on paper a reasonably easy but probobly expensive pic of what a grade separated Dunkettle could look like.
Dunkettle was done like this because apparently it only cost about €2m to put lights in and add a lane here and there. Grade separating this fully would cost €60,70,80m easily (Kinsale Road was €40m I think off the top of my head). So its not a priority right now and nor should it be, when you think of the awful roads between cities at the moment, 🙂
Sarsfield/Bandon are badly badly needed I agree, but with the priority being the interurbans, dont expect construction to begin before 2010. Advance funding for site investigation and the plans for the junction have been given, but no construction till the interurbans are done, as far as I’ve heard.
@jungle wrote:
I would guess that the sections through Douglas and between the Togher and Sarsfield Rd exits are the most likely to be over any noise limits. Some of the problems can probably be dealt with by putting up noise screens, but it’s conceivable that an 80 km/h speed limit would be put in place in parts to keep the noise (and other pollution) down.
Wont make any difference in speeds as everyone stopped in gridlock most of the time 😀
@kite wrote:
Barry O’Connor and Robert Kennedy’s plans to redevelop the Crows Nest public house site have encountered a further delay following ABP’s request for additional information to be submitted before 24th April
ABP considered that the ten storey over ground floor element of the proposed development might, by reason of its height and scale and location in prominent and important views from the east, detract from and obstruct views of County Hall (a protected structure) and might, therefore, seriously injure the amenities of the area and be contrary to the objectives of the Cork City Development Plan 2004.
Thats a pile of rubbish. What morons are going to pull away a high rise development opportunity on the count that it will block views of another???
Add to that that the county hall is one of the ugliest skyscrapers in existance and it deserves to be blocked.
Idiots.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Is it safe to ask what this MIGHT mean?
Part of the deal should be the provision of a roundabout or some slip roads there. The current setup is painfully inadequate 🙁
