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Irish ‘slums’ have heating, electricity, a front door etc, Middle eastern slums are tin huts.
Spoken like a true hippie, if you feel like your a slave to greedy corporations, try living in Dubai where greedy corporations literaly have slaves working on building sites for almost no money. Also Women are property and cannot vote, homosexuals get the death penalty, sex outside of marriage is a federal crime (14 years in prison) and inmagrants are not protected under the law and suffer intimidation by police. Alas I don’t think that is a country that we should look up to in any respect.
Spoken like a true hippie? what is that supposed to mean? So anyone who has an opinion which differs from you is a hippie? You must great fun at social gatherings.
Here we go with the women can’t vote or drive and they chop heads and hands off and they are out to get you etc… too much fox news you’ve been watching there, me thinks. Lived over in the UAE for years so your preaching to the choir. I always notice the most ignorant misinformed people are the people that never travel and experience other cultures and countries. They have a paranoid and aggressive tone about other countries and state with certainty their knowledge of that country. Such imo is the folly of an ignorant and truely uniformed mind.
This country you are speaking of, you must be confusing it with iraq. Don’t always rely on wikipedia for your facts, thats the best advice i can give you. You know they have the death penalty in the usa too. . And you know the capital punishment thing not such a bad idea, they get very little crime and people running around in gangs shooting other gangs to death in mid day traffic like over here. Put a poll to the irish about capital punishment to criminals and see what reaction you’d get.
And even if it was happening that is their religion over there you know, they have a right to do anything they want, just as you have a right to choose your religion and what government rules you. Comparing Ireland and the UAE in terms of culture in relation to architecture is a mute point.
The slave trade has operated in the middle east for centuries. Its part of their culture much as the caste system is part of the culture of the subcontinent of india. And we are all slaves including you. This is the point im making. You are a slave to corporations. The entire western world is. Its just european arrogance that makes you think that you are somehow free, something special, above others in other parts of the world, that because you abandoned capital punishment and you let women drive you are ‘morally superior’. Sure it’s obvious by the tone of your posts thats the way you think.
Maybe the current economic collapse will sort a few things out for you and make you see the reality of the entire western capitalist system and how its just modern serfdom, with it’s ever shrinking middle class and the superrich and powerful who control them. So what you’ll end up with is an elite and a lower class.
Sure you get to choose what car, what color ipod you get to choose what magazine you can buy, but you are living under the control of the corporate masters and financiers who run everything and dictate everything. Everything is a distraction to keep you asleep. Western societies are crime ridden,plauged with social problems, there is no sense of community or family values and now economic collapse is coming. If what happened in Iceland or Greece recently doesn’t register with your subconscious then your in for a surprise.
You need to fill out paperwork just to take a s&& nowadays. Orweillian indeed. What could be more corrupt then the international bankers who destroy an entire financial system then spend the bailout money given by taxpayers to pay themselves and their minions off. You really think your in safe hands? They’re coming for your savings and pensions next, watch for it,soon as the next round of bailouts fail yet again. Your not free, you never were, capitalism is the perfect socialist agenda in play. It gives you the illusion your free, that you have choice and judging from most people they fall for it hook line and sinker. Throw them a few bones here and there and they’re happy.
At least in the middle east they do these things out in the open and let you see who they are
ponder on that.
the workers who built Burj Dubai and all of their other towers are baisically slave labour. That’s how they can build so quickly and with so little regard for site safety or what they demolish along the way. Have you been to Dubai recently? have you seen the shanty towns? the slums that surround the city, the UAE Govt. would prefere you didn’t see them. I’d rather live in a country with no highrises than a country with no freedom
Oh come on now we have our fair share of urban slums here too in what is rapidly becoming a welfare society of 2 tiers, the super rich elite class and the ‘slum dogs’ to coin your phrase. Also freedom is a very all encompassing word don’t you think?, we should trademark that word. I’m sure the people in UAE have had enough of hypocritical westerners telling them of ‘freedom’ meanwhile we show how greedy and corrupt we are with our unbridled greed, bailouts, economic collapse, creation of a welfare state and the top greedy exec’s and ceo’s resigning in droves with their millions. As the late great george carlin once said of western society, Your free, free to make s(((y small decisions like what cigarettes you can buy, what color car you can have, what magazine you can read, but beneath it all your still a slave to corporate capitalism, one with little to no power in the real decision making which runs your life. Freedom my arse..
17 years of boom…. in dubai they build the burj tower, in dublin they build a large spike protruging out of the ground….never have anyone tell you we irish lack ambition..
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
Docks tower could rise higher
Frank McDonald, Environment Editor
The Dublin Docklands Development Authority wants to raise the height of the proposed U2 tower to 100 metres, only 20 metres lower than the Spire.
Err no they don’t …Ever see ghostbusters 2 where they do the 7 years later thing at the start and they are driving around the city lamenting the good ole days and wishing they could go back?
Well unfortunately, in this case we don’t have any good ole days to look back on. We squandered them. When we examine this proposal and the infighting between politicians, developers, planning authorities and the media hype we see everything that is bad about this country and nothing that is good. This proposal was made up 10 years ago and all that has occured in between was infighting and design after redesign, farcical and a sham. Landmark tower my ass.
But then we shouldn’t be surprised because much of the actions of these people i.e. politicians, top level bankers, developers and supposed upholders of the law is coming under closer scrutiny as we suffer an economic collapse. What we missed and didn’t pay attention to during the boom years now just frustrates us as we realise the mismanagement that has occured and the lies spun. A web of deceit. To have Given them the benefit of the doubt is what was the mistake. Heres hoping we can give them a good black eye on their way out…all of them
ahh 1999 the good old days…. i remember it like it twas yesterday with the march’s by the granny brigade. Your looking at a piece of history in this post because these things don’ t happen anymore…
‘Organised by several inner city communities’…:rolleyes:
thats a landmark tower??
This is embarrassing. How long have they been planning this thing? What is it over 5 or 6 years and they are still at it. At this rate any other city in the world would have built 5 skyscrapers. Why in Ireland is planning such a long drawn out affair, ffs its not an ancient druid council meeting, its a skyscraper you design it, plan for construction then build it. No in Ireland we must consult the dog in the street, make sure granny is happy and have the obilgatory round of infighting before anything gets done.August 4, 2007 at 4:56 pm in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754456
i can understand the frustration to be honest in here. Some posters are getting fed up of negative threads but on the other hand some posters are annoyed at the lack of progress in certain areas(myself included). These are both understandable viewpoints but im sure its something that can be ironed out between the members.
The thread is going way off topic to be honest and its probably best to put an end to the bickering now. The problem is probably from my point of view is that whilst there is a lot of building going on in limerick ie bricks and mortar as the above poster puts it there is no real thought or effort put into the effect on the surrounding environment
Its like a mind control building project where every new development is begining to look the same and is being constructed at a record pace in large numbers. Every piece of spare land around me is being swallowed up and no open space is being left. Unfortunately there is no one who will take these concerns seriously and no outlet to express these, It seems the powers that be will never allow that.August 3, 2007 at 2:46 am in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754450
Any chance of raising the bar a bit when posting, constantly heaping the same tirade of abuse when commenting on any topic brought up here is uncool! Seriously, is this an â€œAgony Auntâ€ page to offload personal frustrations for being irish or a forum dealing with â€œwell what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ?â€ I think if people have something to contribute then why canâ€™t it be positive in nature and constructive in itâ€™s criticism. Other wise this thread will just take a nosedive.
sorry for having an opinion and here was me thinking this was a forum with which you are free to express your opinion. Here’s the thing though, as the above poster has pointed out there would no need to be negative if negative things weren’t happening. The irish construction industry and these cowboy builders are ruining my local area building anywhere and everywhere they see land. I just took a walk today and some of the buildings and houses they are building are in the most awful unsuitable places which in turn is creating eyesores. But the thing is these guys don’t care as long as they are making money.
There is no thought put into the construction or the effect on the local enivornment and its ruining the area and im sure its not only in limerick its happening. If im complaining about it its because it matters to me and i would think a lot of other people too would care about their environment. The stupidity and greed of these people is what makes me most angry. There should be laws in place that state certain areas are off limits for building for the good of the environment or else ireland will become a concrete jungle like the u.k. We are repeating the bad planning and building practices of the 1960’s and 70’s.August 2, 2007 at 2:03 am in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754446Paris Jack wrote:Thank you! I’ll buy you a pint if I ever run into you mate!]
If theres one thing about irish people its they certainly don’t learn from their mistakes. Your right about the cowboy developers building anywhere and everywhere they see space, my area has changed so much in the last 10 years its almost unrecognisable and its not for the better either. Im all for economic growth but to me a lot of this building thats going on is building for the sake of building with no concern for the surrounding environment. Depressing.
Just why exactly would building a small tower block be considered a secret? lol, what a stupid marketing campaign and whats even funnier is if you go to the website you see a bunch of people with surprised looks on their faces like they were witnessing 9/11 all over again or something.
‘Tis like a huge tower tom, bayjasus ive never seen the likes of it befarrrr, tis getting like manhattan’July 29, 2007 at 2:37 am in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754435
fact is if certain businesses leave the limerick area ie dell which they are bound to do there’ll be no business tourists visiting. The government in this country need to cop on to themselves and start putting forward real business idea’s like spending the money on more worthwhile ideas like indigenous Research and development plans instead of looking for hand outs from other countries namely the usa to locate their businesses over here.July 29, 2007 at 2:32 am in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754434
The government is investigating the possibility of building a 2,000 capacity conference centre in the Limerick area in an effort to boost tourism in the mid-west
what?? a conference center to boost tourism. Thats just farcical. No tourists visit countries or areas because of a friggin conference center. I also agree that putting it in shannon makes no sense. In fact whats the purpose of building it at all we already have large amenities for this sort of event in the university of limerick. Another waste of money.
At least they chose the younger Elvis, not the sequinned Las Vegas one.
lmaoJuly 27, 2007 at 2:37 am in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754425
Let’s hope by “develop” they don’t mean expand or knock and rebuild.
I’ve always wondered how on earth that shopping centre didn’t take off…it has such a big catchment area yet it is often like a ghost town in there.
It never took off because its too small, theres nothing in there only a couple of shops, and its one of the most boring places to go. Also located nearby are plenty of shopping centers and now aldi it will get even worse. I don’t like the idea of too many shopping centers in castletroy anyway the place is getting overcrowded and overbuilt.
now thats a proper tower..July 15, 2007 at 1:22 pm in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754377
@Paris Jack wrote:
Interesting alright tfarmer… but I’d still rather see a boating Marina and real luxury apartments there. It’s just perfect for it! That way people can really enjoy the experience of living on the Shannon all year round, don’t you think? I’m very much in favour of a concert arena for the city centre but not on the water! Surely there are enough adequate plots within the city centre itself to put such a potentially fantastic project!?
True but id imagine that the surrounding area ie the dockland harbour (if you could call it that) would be developed. Also and from a space point of view i dont think there would be enough room to fit a large concert dome such as those seen internationally. In the end of the day thats just my opinion it remains to be seen what they actually have in mind.July 14, 2007 at 6:33 pm in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754371
Something like this i think would be a prefect location for it.July 14, 2007 at 6:12 pm in reply to: well what about the developments popping up in the shannonside ? #754370
Its just a very vague idea at the moment with no hard information on it, there isnt even a mention of a possible location yet! Its probably just pie in the sky stuff!
Its probably just a man made island with a big shiny concert dome on the top of it. The best place to put it would be smack bang right in the middle of the docklands yard where the ships come in. It would look great from the point of view of people approaching from the north circular road.