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as fas as i know the albert quay station was also the west cork terminus. that would be a spectacular line to see reestablished and i have often wondered if it could be done. obviousily access to the city centre would need a new route but i have often wondered why nothing has been done with the old line that goes under the dual carriageway to the jack lynch tunnel.
at least that line is still for the most part intact and i think that is the line that passes pairc ui caoimh.an unbelievebable asset to the city would be to have a luas/dart/arrow service from the centre out to mahon point ringaskiddy, carrigaline and so on. we should be grateful that with all the attention the docklands and quays are getting this might become something given serious consideration.
i always thought there was a line above kent station and i assume this is the summerhill station. i didnt know there was a line from cork out to macroom but it is mind boggling to realise how many incredibly stupid short sighted decisions have been made in the past. apparently the west cork line was ripped up intact (the railway) and stuck on a freighter and exported to nigeria by the then govt. (as far as i know) despite the objections of the local people
i would like i said love to see the west cork railway rebuilt. i have long felt this would be a brilliant tourist attraction and for the local population a really great beneficial service. nice dream i guess but it would be amazing to see the chetwynd viaduct and other bridges along the line back in use. always thought crossing the bridge over the bandon river would have been a cool sight (from the train) and the supports/abbutments are still visible.
who knows maybe someday someone with a few spare billion will give it a go!!?!!Go on El Burto!!!
Bass, brass and more bass flowing throught the capital whah!!!
Just what the country needs for the collective morale and all that…..but as someone mentioned what relevance does this have to this site unless Paul Clerkin can take to the capitals premier thoroughfare upon a float thrown together by the great De Blacam & Meagher Military Machines Wing, waving the archeire canvas and making telling remarks about the state of the work on said thoroughfare!!!!!
Onwards and upwards…..concrete waits for no man!!!
Viva El Primo Archo Paulo!!!
😎the plans for the airport on the daa website seem impressive and promise alot but i guess we will have to wait and see. still if the plans for T2, etc. are put into action dublin airport could attract a lot more business and hopefully more direct flights to north america and asia. always a bit of a pain in the ass having to go through heathrow to get to western canada and vice versa coming home!!! not enough trade to warrant direct flights to any where on the west coast of canada/states apart from la i would think.
be great to see the new terminal designs when they arrive and i hope they learn/respond to the design for the aer lingus hq. could be a great opportunity for a cool building in dublin!!?!!last time i was home i was more impressed with oliver plunkett st than the patrick st overhaul. maybe the eglinton st development will change a few minds for the better!!?!!
and finally for now, 32 storeys is still quite tall and i guess we have to keep that in perspective when we talk about dublin. a fella i once worked with told me if they keep building in dublin the country will tip over!!?!!
one other thing, i love the richard rogers tower for leadenhall street in london. i always thought something like that would have looked great in the ifsc by the water!!! could have set a great precedent…..
what ever happend to the plan to tear down and rebuild the block towards the north end of south great georges st????
i like the look of what dunnes are doing but i seem to recall a proposal to tear down the building further north which was originally designed for an industrial estate in england!!?!! if that gets built and along with the dunnes work it will have a great effect, at least physically, on the street…granted PDLL but i was making the point that despite obvious flaws, a planning process and governing board is essential to the fabric of any city or town. i am just a little disapointed that ABP seem a little too cautious with regard to high rise and high density developments.
i thought that the denis o’brien & co. proposal for morehampton road looked great from the one image we saw and would have liked to see more detailed images but a politician and local residentts objected and it is no more. masybe it was too high but i get the impression that ABP tend s to react with a knee jerk rather than face the hassle of proving to opponents and detractors of schemes, the merits and benefits of such projects.
as we have seen by the short sighted and unfortunate decision made by cork county council, planning and politicians dont always mix. i still think each major city should have a say in what gets built and where but the 3 storey rule could have disastrous effects on growth. for this reason and the fact that a lot of money, and the people behind said cash, is invested in development this will probably be fought tooth and nail.
and by the way is there any sign of any movement on the u2 site!!?!!agreed…the last thing we need in dublin is a rash of ill thought out badly situated and bullshit buildings popping up but i think the future is not all doom and gloom. the u2 tower will hopefully happen and there are other plans too that aren’t beyond the realms of possibility such as the tower opposite the u2 tower. and i think between these and westgate nerves might be calmed a little when people realise not all tall buildings are harbingers of dublins doom.
and while wer’e at it knock liberty hall and build something modern and aesthetically suitable to spar with the custom house!!!i guess aer lingus are feeling confident and have had another reprieve handed down sparing the company from being carved up for now and the lads are doing their best to fatten the bird!!!
i am still hopeful a metro will happen and by all accounts we are apparrently within weeks of getting a major announcement from the dept of transport on ‘the grand plan’, incl. a metro, so like many i will believe it when i see it but it is reasuring to see drawings and such in national papers relating to a 500 – 800 mil development plan which may suggest they know something a little sooner than we do. and if not you have to admire their optimism!!!i think the design is great and 50,000 is a good number of people to have in a ground. if all goes well this will translate really well into reality. i doubt if the envelope will be pushed by attemting to ammend the application if it appears likely to pass by increasing capacity to 60 or 75g. i’ll be grateful to see irish soccer and rugby get a great home and the continued use of the oldest rugby ground in the world assured (apparently anyway) so if it takes until 2009 so be it…lets just hope it gets built!!!
dublin is a european capital and obviousily not one of the larger population centres but nevertheless an important city. and what appears to me to be one of the major stumbling blocks towards more bold, advanced and imaginative architecture is the lack of resources currently attributed to ABP. this has led to a backlog of work etc and perhaps one or two senior staff can pick and chose what they want to examine and if they decide yey or nay, thats it. complete conjecture obviousily but just like a lot of other areas in irish public life, such as health and transport, years of underfunding and bad management have resulted in resources being pushed to breaking point by the amazing increase in capital and success etc of recent years.
a great pity that cities like dublin, limerick and cork are not able to rely on their own ability to decide what does and does not get built within their jurisdiction. i am not sure but i believe that is the case in london and i assume other british cities. i know that dublin city has granted outline planning permission to areas like the north docklands to generate interest but like a lot of things ireland needs to bring herself up to speed.
one good side to all of this is at least the city has’nt been innundated with bollocks no-one wants to see built just so we can have a few monuments to money!!!well if eglington st, school of music etc. are anything to go by, the future is not too shabby for cork and its great to see the city going up if ever so slowly!!!
Is that the title of the book, chaos at the crossroads, and when is it expected to be released!!?!! any and all info greatly appreciated.
river point is the job…great stuff. i went to ul in ’93 and remember the city being quite depressed and depressing so its great to see this town quietly getting on with the various projects like this and the redevelopment of the savoy site.
lots of potential in limerick for serious buildings and with the new bypass, the tunnel under the shannon and the proposed/hopefully soon to happen limerick to shannon airport rail link, i think limerick is only going to go from strength to strength!!!
that stretch from the riverpoint tower to the clarion is probably going to see a lot more stuff pushing up the height issue and i hope the city keeps going well!!!interesting to note that the ddda has an edge over everywhere else in the country seeing as how permission can be granted by the ddda once a proposal seems to fulfil all their criteria. a good thing definetly if handled well but potentially disastrous!!!
the fact remains ireland is a small island, dublin a mushroom that continues to swell and going up is essential to the future sustainability of not just dublin but all major cities in ireland. and making better use of land and promoting sensible projects is vital. density is definetly an issue and unfortunately the point village seems to be a 32 storey tower surrounded by the standard 5 storey stuff. i guess a case of wait and see.
the urban plan is interesting with their ideas for tall buildings near heuston. perfect spot for a few tall buildings and high density living and i still maintain having tall feature towers around the city is a better idea than a glut in one spot. i am still a fan of the idea of denis o brien’s tower on morehampton road and glad to the sandyford tower going ahead (the 26 storey one) but we have to be wary of accepting every tower proposal as the way to go. last thing we need is a collection of cookie cutter bollocks making a balls of the docks!!!
one last thing when is the u2 tower project supposed to get under way or is that delayed because they have decided to push that one to 100 metres as well!!?!!we should see a definite change in how the quays develop when the dublin port tunnel comes online. seem to recall talk of banning hgv’s from the quays in so far as is possible. with the new framework plan and the creation of new markets on the M50 hopefully a significant change will be seen in the city.
man i guess i hit a nerve…wasnt trying to incite a riot just expressing an opinion. still had a good laugh at sue’s advice!!!
boutique hotel = independent (generally) and unique hotel designed to appeal to the hip element. kinda like the morrison but usually a little smaller.
why does it always appear that you’re damned if u do and damned if you dont!!?!!
at least the buildings werent bulldozed and replaced by a 4 storey box…I wonder what ever happened to the idea of putting a salmon weir into the liffey!!?!! Never mind anymore bridges for now, It would have been great to have a means of keeping the water level at a certain mark to keep the shopping trolleys n sludge below the water (better again – dredge that muck out & install a weir) as far up as heuston station. that would make a great difference to the way people look at the river. i know its tidal and there would still be low tide and high tide marks below the weir but i for one thought it would be great.
as for the river and amenities go, i believe CHQ is opening soon and i guarantee as soon as the grand canal basin starts to come online there will be a big change. if the event centre/theatre and so on get built, there will a lot to see and do on the quays and about time too.
plus on the opposite side around the point depot, crosby has plans for a massive development too with apts cinemas bars etc etc…so things are looking up!!!
