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don’t like the stencilled side panelling. looks like the bastard child of the opera house and the gate theatre, if heroin was involved somewhere in the coinception process.
its too obvious and cliched. murray o’laoire have yet to shock me with anything interesting.nice render though.
BTW, they say 60 million euro on their website as the budget
its a landmark cardboard box.
i’d like to grab dublin city planners by the ear, drag them through the irish sea and show them canary wharf in london. now thats utilising potential. say what you like about rogers and foster et al having a professional wank with the egg and gherkin and what not, but londons starting to look great. Not on the strength of the individual buildings, but on the overall scheme and bravery of it. Transport, business, commercial enterprise, accommodation.
Our planners however, want to replicate stuff like that awful apartment block facing calatrava’s bridge. bad people. bad or stupid. either way, i cant see the docklands ever being developed to its full potential
can we not get them into court for infringement of cultural copyright? please please don’t post any pictures or plans. i still have a little faith in the integrity and intelligence of the average american. but unfortunately its hanging by a very shaky thread from a burning Bush
why repost? goddam it dont you lambast me enough with your witless foolery without the need to REpost ! oh ye gods you’ve driven me to exclamation marks. handbags at dawn ladies and gents. breakfast for two. elevenses for but one.
after reading your lengthy treatise on not a lot, i feel the urge to reply. you’re completely wrong about the attititudes of most students of architecture towards extra curricular activities. for most, hazily remembered post-crit rants in the pub on fridays are the most valuable learning experience one gets in the crazy world of architectural education. i myself am proud to say i dedicated much of m valuable evening, afternoon, and sometimes morning time to rambling through projects post-mortem, slurring and drooling my thoughts to what i’m sure was a rapt audience. couldn’t see em you see, i was blind from self(un)loathing and praise for my work.
you appear to have mastered the art of doublethink brian. you say you find it dangerous that the arkitecty colleges flirt with the artistic community. yet you seem also to believe that buildings are works for the public use, visual enjoyment of, and general awareness of the public. if that doesnt constitute a work of art then i’m a tin of campbells soup. the main difference being our need to apply rules, regulations, order and pattern to our buildings. A human being stands 6 feet tall (or so) and weighs 10 stone (or so). they need light, air, bogroll, their eyes pleased, and a fire escape. the roving eye of a a person looking at an objet d’art has few constaints, and the imagination none at all.
i’m not sure how paul will feel about you suggesting his being chewed up by d.i.t staff as a matter of course, but i’ll ask do you feel a little chewed up after all your time there? and has it given you any clarity? this is paramount in the work of an architect. a conscious act of madly dashing towards a set finishing line while keeping each house, cup and kitten in order is the practicable act of architecture.
i’m off to eat chips. keep it down to medium length rant if at all possible.
what?
sadly, i brought in a picture of the central bank to my interview. oh my blissful ignorance. to be 16 again. i think college is designed to knock any remaining stupidity out of you, and now i think the cube stinksOriginally posted by garethace
Long answer is. . .
wouldnt expect anything less brian. and only one thousand and eighty six words? you must be off form.
not too good at the linking and such, but look at the two rendered images that accompanied the first post on this thread. personally i dont think they’re accurately prtraying whats been built. wide perspectives and soft focus seem to accentuate the building, where the reality is so disappointing. i just wonder how much of a sell were such renders, and how much they were selectivel shown to planners to convince them of granting permission
graham
i was there on a fairly miserable day and what i think i saw was mist settling and condensing, then running through cracks and washing out dust and construction crap, it looked pretty bad. i’m sure it just came off with rain but it just highlighted the panel size and lack of relation to the street.
took a stroll down henry street last weekend, first time since june.
in my humble but anguish ridden opinion, the revised facade of roches stores is an absolute abomination. i cant begin to comprehend how awful its going to look in 2 years, not to mind 20. terrible standard of finish, staining, ugly patina forming, shoddy detailing and finishing. not pretty.
any opinions?
and garethace, please dont try and relate this to limerick in any way
The city architects department works quite well. not sure it affords the privacy to each individual that might be pertinent in a hierarchal private office situation, but it creates a team spirit, constant buzz of activity, and the necassary openness and transparency that is required in public service areas like that.
wher do you get this CRAP garethace!!
please express one single individual thought or opinion or judgement uninfluenced by mole brady or sinead o’rourke or pooey kahn, even a phrase!??!! dammit man i despair. please lift my spirits. raise me to a place where i can see the future and the possibilities of my fall, where i can hear the winds of change whistle through the tresses of my architecty beard
it is essential my tiny hiney.
principles and guidelines spoken from on high are exactly what drives young architects to abandon the old-skool, concrete roots crap they are taught. and i suppose it is that reason that i can thank people like andreas duany, tired old titmouse that he is.
it is essential to be true to ones self
it is essential to ever learn to grow
it is essential to never settle on anything less than ones best
it is essential that nobody take heed of my twaffe, and everybody establish their own path through life. essentially
i heard some shit on the radio saying it is a tax on being alive. that by our very existence we must generate waste to survive. and anyway its those corporate bastards who triple wrap everythng in plastic, paper, and celophane.
i say shut up bee-atch and go buy some fruit from a market and carry it home in a hemp bag, and put any rind out to compost you wastrel little scrounger. then go wear some leaves and pluck paper bags from trees on o’connell street. mingy dirty little wastrel free-loading feckers with less than shit for brains and the morals and decency of chimps that hunt monkeys (go on david attenborough). go smoke yourself to death in your local for lunch tea and supper you fair city esque ratbag heathen. you contemptable example of our falteing irish blood line. you eejit. you short-sighted nympho. you slag. you cow.
pay your taxes. its you and me that pay berties wages. and if thats not an example of looking after your thrash then nothing is
client: (s)he who commissions the work.
clients agent: (s)he who relays ideas between the client and the architect, be the client a government, institution, or an individual.
society: the population as a whole who will interact with the structure, who will be exposed to its aesthetics and ecological impact, who will survive the client, have to adapt to the buildings changing uses and character, and who will ultimately judge the building.
it is the duty of the architect to serve the client in terms of return on investment, and financial gain. or in the case of public projects, the exposure and character of the client to the public through the building. the clients agent (who may indeed be the client on smaller projects) must be privy to all stages of design, the mindset of the architect, and the probable course of the project. a good architect will always consider the impact of any development on society as a whole, and must strike a balance between gain and profit for the developer, and the possible negative impact on society in the form of stressed projects which generate problems for people on a local and macro scale. Planners, regulators, and councils fit into this equation in order to regulate the process to ensure no adverse reactions will occur as a result of development. This is an ideal situation and rarely runs smoothly or please everyone involved. not councils or architects or clients. and rarely all members of the public.
it is because of their important role in the process of developing the built environment that i believe architects should be privy to and learned in the various issues that could be involve in the deign process through to the impact of the building 20 or 200 years down the line. everything from the specification of non-toxic, renewable local materials, through to analysis of future growth in the area, and where their building will fit into this future fabric. this should all be part of the architects brief. it is a moral stand to take up this challenge and adopt these priciples, not law or religion. it is a personal issue for each architect to exam themselves, and make their own decisions.
As for that photo and the accompanying point; what?
Screw the casting process and the builders little niggles. If such complexity was necessary then it should happen no matter what. A poor architect would chicken out and decide to rationalise towards simplicity, two-dimensions, and round numbers. Thatdo you realise your last post was 2,166 word long. and had less than one clear point? thats not a good ratio
Garethace
Is there any question in there? You contradict yourself with each new thread you start, each loosely related to the last but all without clear purpose or aim. I appreciate the fact that you might have opinions you feel the need to express, but many of your points of view seem based on the writing or philosophy of people long dead. Or worse, people whose only expertise lie in the domain of academia.
I would also urge you to show due courtesy to your fellow members in these forums. Your seeming disdain of people doesn
