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I’ve just been flicking through here and had a quick look at the P11 site-specfically the plan on it. Have a few questions if anyone can answer them for me….
:confused: The red and green DART lines running up past Stephen’s Green-are these above or below ground?And if below ground, would this not be extremely difficult to carry out, given the types of buildings, their age, and the designs they tend to built to i.e many basements etc-in that area?
:confused: Insted of linking the LUAS lines together at connolly, would it be easier to link them together at the St. James stop that’s there alredy?This is just from looking at the plan, I’m not exactly sure of the area between the 2 places.That would possibly mean less tunnelling for DARTS?Maybe easier?
🙁 Does any of this include expanding the stations currently in existence? I travel in on the Northern commuter line every day to Pearse station, and while extending the DART to MAlahide is an excellent idea, it appears to be messy juggling the timetables for the DART with the commuter train timetable.While the southside of the city has DARTS every 10 minutes or so, all day, you regularly arrive at Malahide and find yourself waiting maybe 30 mins. Also in the morning when the DARTS are every 15 mins, people at Malahide push on the commuter trains, and give out because there’s no space for them.Can they not just wait????The DART is there for them, at least they have the option!The rest of us HAVE to get the commuter train!!Also connolly station, although it currently has 7 platforms, there are only 2 tracks heading out of the south side of the station. So no matter how many trains are in that station only one at a time can ever enter or leave.So intelligent….
:confused: Grange Road?New station???
:confused: Isn’t there a rail line running up past Croke Park and up by a canal, around Phibsboro somewhere? Does that get included?
I’m glad to see that the plan seems to focus on connecting the area AROUND Dublin to the centre, as opposed to connecting the centre of Dublin to, well, the centre.Let’s face it, you can walk from one side of Dublin centre to the other, and there are hundreds of buses crossing the liffey, to the main shopping streets of Dublin. And now the LUAS aswell. It’s just if you try and get to, say, Park West from Lusk, or Clontarf to Red Cow that you run into trouble. Or maybe Adamstown to Blackrock.And considering that’s what most people are trying to do almost everyday, what choice do they have at the moment but to drive???Trains aren’t great, but buses are seriously a lot worse, if you live anywhere except the southside of Dublin really. You could be waiting forever to get a bus.

thanks for the info re:updating the kildare line, I wasn’t aware that plan existed. Although I’d have to wait to see it happening before I put too much faith in it, after years of getting commuter trains. The train line that runs at the back of Croke Park, is this also being upgraded and (re)opened?It looks as though it might be, and it would definitely be a great idea

@Rory W wrote:

So you think it makes sense that a truck coming from Belfast to go to Limerick (for an example) should go via Dublin and the M50?

I don’t think that drivers going from Belfast to Limerick should have to go via the M50. I am slightly at a loss as to exactly where you think they should go.Would you mind explaining this statement? What I meant was that the M50 is currently in existence and there are major problems with it. The toll plaza appears to be a major source of traffic jams, along with the Blanchardstown exit, and the Red Cow roundabout exit. Very little thought has been given to how this might be fixed-I know upgrading is currently taking place-but it is only beginning, we face years of sitting in traffic still.Anyway, does it make much sense to just create a second, similar situation, just a few miles further out from the city?With the solution to that being a third outer ring road/orbital road?No thought seems to be given to the source of all this traffic-thousands of people living in the outer reaches of Dublin, with no other way to get to the city.

Yet everyone still wants to move to dublin. Who do you think all the new houses are being built for????!!!!!And yeah, the roads are desperate, loads of houses are being put in and no infrastructure whatsoever. You build a new housing estate, you should HAVE to contribute to the upgrading of existing transport-I mean buses and trains etc,- or provide new transport-stations, etc, like the estate being built near Howth, beside the railway line.A new station is being put in as part of that development. Means more overcrowding on the trains, but at least it’s a start….

Hi,
I am not an architect, I’m a civil engineer. I worked as a student engineer on Dundrum Town centre site last summer. To Lya, I’m sure your store will do great. The place is, in fact, huge, relative to many of Ireland’s other shopping centres, and most people in and around Dundrum are quite enthusiastic about it, they would stop us in the street and ask about it.
The one thing I think developers in this country give little or no consideration to is the effect of the traffic created by these places. I don’t know if anyone knows the Pavilions shopping centre in Swords, North Dublin. Traffic.That’s it. And let’s face it, the southside of the city tends to be one major traffic jam, most of the hours in the day. Dundrum has a by-pass that is very slow most of the day-and that was while construction was taking place. Can we all imagine what it’ll be like, with 3 carpark entrances opening onto it when this place opens?The centre of Dundrum itself has very narrow roads too.
Aside from all this, the centre is quite impressive inside. And I’m pretty sure that I, for one, will probably be out there in the very near future! 🙂