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  • in reply to: developments in cork #758758
    snoopdog
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    Hey everyone, sorry to change subjects but does anyone know what Mark Kelleher’s plan for bishopstown are? We have heard there was a new appeal for more apartments and town houses but i thought he was getting ready to build! His name + nice words aren’t exactly going together around here at the moment.By now, I think most people here are annoyed at the fact that he keeps coming back rather than actually objecting to what he’s doing, they’ve accepted that.I mean how many times is this?

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #734078
    snoopdog
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    :confused: Is it true that mr.Kelleher has sent in another planning permission application? Is it also true that he was only allowed 27 town houses after his last application? :confused:

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #734050
    snoopdog
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    @Freddie wrote:

    Hope Mark Kelleher has more luck with his planning application at “Caterham”
    than he did at “Westend” see TP 05/29464.
    CAHRA should not have a problem with this application (2 storeys), but with
    that crowd you would never know?
    However the “blue rinse” brigade will proberly be lamenting the loss of
    another quality house in their beloved Bishopstown, sad,sad,sad.
    Maybe it is time to take the advice of another contributor to this website
    and take the pensions off the OAPs that stand in the way of progress.

    Sorry, but where’s “Caterham”? :confused:

    I can tell you that no one will be “lamenting” anything but with the way you are referring to the residents is it any wonder why they get angry? Also its not only OAP who are angry at all the development in the area. I’ve teenagers getting annoyed at it. But you have to admit that, for people who have lived in this area for so many years without much change, its understandable they find all the apartments springing up so fast more than a bit hard to take.Especially when there were virtually, if any, there three years ago or less.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #733897
    snoopdog
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    While I am in no means appeased on this issue I will, ahhh, soften my words. I will admit that my main concern was for the future residents, for which I will take your word lexington, will not be a problem. I cannot debate the design of the building because to my knowledge the residents have not been given a design, only a diagram of where the buildings will be. The countryside view I mentioned refers to the two- storey houses that can see the hills and “country” beyond the other houses. In the past some areas were not allowed to build two-storey houses because they would block this view.

    You have made reference to arguments that defy logic and call them farcical. I would very much like to hear one of these “farcical” points. It is obvious to me that you are a businessman because you cannot see why people do not want these buildings in their town. You seem astonished that people do not like the thought of tall buildings(even if they are only 3-4 storeys high)

    Until more detail becomes available to me I will rest my case. I would however ask that you try to see this from the residents’ point of view. A number of apartments have come into this area very recently and still more forces people to wonder how many houses will be left in Bishopstown when this apartment explosion finishes

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #733894
    snoopdog
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    [QUOTE=lexington]:D Following incalcuable trials and tribulations, 2 designs later, Mark Kelleher (of the Kelleher family, former owners of the Bishopstown Bar [which recently was sold to Mr. Horgan for 8m euros!] among other properties), has been given the greenlight by CCC planner Evelyn Mitchell for 53 of the 73 residential units planned for a collective of adjoining sites off Curraheen Road at Westend near Bishopstown. The project, pleasantly designed by Frank Ennis & Associates, received over 124 seperate objections for residents, groups (like CAHRA) and local councillors – and will be granted subject to the removal of an entire section, the 20-units of Block C.

    I’m very glad that CCC saw through the substantial cock-and-bull in the logic of many of these objections (too often over-lapping – and many more referring to the details of the previous incarnation of the development!) – which objection often on the grounds of the developments ‘high-rise’ nature (of 3/4-storeys – depending on how you see the mansard roof). :rolleyes: This is a positive move. Unfortunately, Jerry Buttimer and posse have informed me that an appeal will be sought, one individual stated that ”high-rise is suitable in other cities, but not Cork”. I take it we should tear down every house and building 4-storeys and over then, right?

    😡 Did you ever wonder what residents would think of this, or were all those complaints and challenges not enough to tip you off? Of course adding so many people to a relitivly quiet area will make traffic volumes soar. Not to mention the eye sore all those buildings will be.Residants who now have view of the countryside will have the inspiring view of a grey wall.How nice. Also, I don’t care about four-storey buildings in the city but this is the suburbs! A place where people live to get away from traffic and huge ugly buildings!

    Of course, I cannot conclude my arguement without mentioning that putting so many apartments and townhouses in that small area will send the property value plummeting.I wonder, will mr. kelleher care what type of people come here? Or will he only care about getting paid?

    I know someone else agreed that this was a good idea but honestly I cant see why anyone could think this is a good idea!Unless of course they are the annoying business people who want to turn the Emerald Isles into the Grey Isles!

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