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@altuistic wrote:
I agree with Thomond Park. Its not about the shop names or number of big brand generics. Its about the ambience of the place, the activity, pedestrian space and accessibility. i think the title was deserved. Sometimes i find Grafton Street cluttered and Henry Street very bland, with the exception of a few nice buildings like Roches. But i’m sure they will improve.
On another subject our beloved Minister for Transport apparently says a Dublin Docklands railway station will be up and running by 2007. Now this isnt a knock at Dublin at all at all but more an observation on our politicians but didnt Minister Cullen promise to get Horgans Quay and Kent Station rolling at the start of last year and didnt his predecessor promise a debt free Cork airport? Did the current Minister intervene with the DAA decided to knock off airbridges at Cork airport from 4 to 1?? Not that I remember. No such cutbacks at the new terminal in Dublin which will cost 1.2 billion euros. Its amazing how Mr Cullens second rate attitude to Cork astounds me. Why must we put up with second rate?? Horgans Quay, our airbridges and promises on Cork airport debt are overdue!
Cork does’nt need to look like Leeds or Nottingham Grafton St. / Henry Street streetscape – keep as much as possible indidgenous and local as getting Starbucks and Dixons etc will only make us like anywhere else.
Re:Govermnent funding for Cork I believe that the items addressed above and others will impact on government parties in the next election.
Ryanair threatening to pull out of Cork airport.
The government took so long on the school of music debacle /Kinsale road flyover.Its not dissimilar in finishes,scale,massing,materials mix to their Lavitts Quay development and the apartment block at 9 stories is probably too high for the city centre core area. However overall this project must be welcomed as a massive boost to Cork city business and shopping re-inforcing Cork as the premier shopping destination outside Dublin.
The new Faulkeners lane pedestrianised is great however Academy St.Drawbridge St. leading to the Quays must be pedestrianised also.@Thomond Park wrote:
The tower will need an extensive reworking along with most of the elements to McCurtain St it looks jumbled and a definite case of shifting excessive bulk around a confined site.
Could’nt agree more. If this gets built hopefully it will open the whole of the quay to good development as this south facing quay has great potential.
@lexington wrote:
π It seems those of you who have looked forward to seeing Paul Kenny’s highly acclaimed The Treasury building for St. Patrick’s Quay come to life may indeed be smiling with word that the project is to be constructed within 4 to 6 months, with office space set to be pitched – as previously noted – to private sector occupiers. Originally intent for Revenue Commissioner usage, the proposal will be realised following its grant for ABP.
See here.
More exciting news expected before the weekend. All going well.Excellent news as I was thinking of the staus of the project when I passed early this morning.
As similar type of scheme could also be realised for the Penrose Wharf buildings fronting on to Penrose quay.@maryk wrote:
I am a final year civil engineering student looking for information on the smoke venting system in place in the Princes St. Market, Cork. Im not sure if this is the forum to place this, but if anyone has any idea where I should go or who I should contact, I’d really appreciate it! π
Cork City Council 4966 222 or Cork City Fire Brigade 4310 745
@Pug wrote:
if a citys development and potential for decently designed buildings is decreed to by how good the fire brigade are, its time to give up.
These ignorant careerist politicians should be sent to Manhattan,London,Singapore etc………and see how long their careers last…..and their opinions derided in the rest of the developed world.
Bring on the election.Paul Clerkin wrote:I think they pick out cushions and curtains… ]Yes mostly soft furnishings,lots of talk about your horizontal and vertical surfaces,inflicting their taste on you and all for a nice fee for not doing a whole lot………….and then it has to be re-done 2 years later as its suddenly “So zero six”:)
@POM wrote:
Whoa they’re some big pics. π
Saw this passing the other day. Very industrial looking but I imagine once it is complete it will be a new style for the street. Should look well at night. Now if we could only do something about Singers Corner. Any night pics elvis?
It looks a lot better in reality than the image. Singers corner looks like it has’nt been painted since 1870 and ready to topple over and with Finns corner on the opposite corner both look dire and urgently require modernisation.
Castle Jewelers on Cornmarket Street also must have the worst signage & paint job in the City – Pink & blue.@corcaighboy wrote:
HE’S BACK!!! And thank god for that. Lex, you were sorely missed. But so glad to see ya back again.
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Welcome back Lex – informative as ever.
Anybody know whats happening with The Grand Parade site at the old Grand Parade Hotel – there has’nt been any activity there in a long time ?
@jungle wrote:
Just to clarify.
I certainly wasn’t citing Douglas in general as how shopping centres should work. My point was that Douglas Shopping Centre has an entrance which opens onto the main street in Douglas. As such, it becomes a part of the suburb. Douglas Court is up there with Bishopstown Court for the title of worst suburban shopping development in Cork.
I’d love to see the planners report on that permission for Douglas Court.
@ewankennedy wrote:
So when is the next big city centre development that will make us all gasp?? We need a bit of excitement injected here. π
Exactly ! The images that were published for The Grand Parade Capitol Cineplex site look very poor.
Cornmarket St. development does’nt look exciting.
Academy St. may be a chance to do something good.About time that street was pedestrianised along with Drawbridge St and the network of streets behind the Savoy/Easons linking onto the Quay.@jungle wrote:
I’ve menioned it before, but I find the way shopping centres have been developed in Cork to be very poor. With the honourable exceptions of Ballincollig and Douglas, they do not integrate into the areas that they serve. They have all been allowed to develop into places that are only practically available to cars. Any pedestrian is forced to trek across massive car parks to get into them. It shouldn’t be too difficult to have the shopping centre opening onto the street with the car park behind it.
And that’s before the design is taken into account (Definitely no honour for Douglas SC there π ).
Douglas has 2 large shopping centres across the road from each other which is a disaster.
Mahon point loks airlifted in from Houston or some other “car hell” city.
Merchants Quay turns its back to the River Lee and has all the qualities of the old Arndale centre before the Ira blew it up.
Wilton worked for a while but is now hopelessy outdated and a good re-development ah-la Dundrum might work there.
How many more Dunnes stores do we need – any superquin or M&S in the suburbs ???@orion wrote:
Jerry Buttimer in today’s Examiner calls for “a moratorium on major devlopments ” in his ward.
Its a pity his veiws only extent to Bishopstown and not to his GAA buddies Devlopment @Victoria Mills.
Is this guy for real in thinking the planning processes final decision to grant must be a democratic decision imagine that trying to work in todays Celtic Tiger economy.
God help us if this guy every tries for the Dail,what a clown.Its all political attention seeking and image enhancing behaviour.Total gimp unworthy of any votes – EVER.
We’ll see him go very quiet when Bishopstown G.A.A. and Highfield come up for development in the next few years.Total nonsense as ever in todays Irish Examiner fron Fine Gaels Mr.Buttimer.@James Furlong wrote:
No news for us lexington? Your very quiet these days. Read something today in the paper about the showgrounds? Any details.? Keep up the good work, this is a very good website.
James Furlong
Very strange that Lex is’nt about these days – Skiing I hope !
@bunch wrote:
that unity house development on alfred st/lwr glanmire road is awful –
considering its location in relation to patrick’s church, the prominent position on what will become the primary link to the north docks/horgans quay, its visual importance and the opportunity of the site its a real disappointment – cheap materials, no apparent design philosophy, no response to the opportunity that the site presents.
has anyone seen it in the flesh -its fairly substandard – does anyone know – was there an architect involved?
I think that it was done by an engineer the name does’nt spring to mind but the firm was mentioned in the property section of the Irish Examiner about 4 weeks ago.
St.Patricks house next door has planning for a further 2 storeys of offices / apartments which may happen soon which
may help this important and until recently neglected area of the city.Its better than what was there but another Subway outlet going in there won’t do it any favours.
@POM wrote:
Underwhelming to say the least. Along with the possible Revenue Commissioner offices along the Blackpool bypass it represents another example of 2001 designs approved, yet to be realised and quite frankly would be better off not realised.
For such a fantastic riverside site you’d think STW would have put a little more heart into it.On the subject matter of trying to contact the County council’s planners…disaster! I got so fed up last Thursay I just hung up…better off heading out to the Model Farm Road and asking to see them in person. A waste of everyones time in most circumstances, phone questions would only take a few mins.
Just spent half the day trying to do the same today so eventually went out there after lunch to drop in a letter. The receptionist refused to accept the letter and redirected me to the planning desk where 7 people stood for 15 mins without anybody behind the counter.Eventually I gave the letter to a porter. What a watste of time.
@pier39 wrote:
delighted to hear about patricks qy. what an eyesore the place is. in time id like to see the quayside their build up sufficiently to counterbalance developmet across the water and bring a nice corridor effect and sense of continuity to the quays which should hopefully serve to emphasise the river rather than detract from it as is with patchy building types and overly dramatic varying rooflines.
There is a surface car park behind very poor quality 2 storey buildings fronting on to St.Patricks Quay and 2 or 3 buildings on to McCurtain St.Its only a matter of time before this superb site comes up for re-development along with the O’Heas Opel garage site alongside the Metropole Gresham.Along with the rear of the Everyman theatre and some poor quality signage and shopfronts this south facing quay has lots of potential.
@Devin wrote:
It looks overscaled Γ’β¬β does this image represent the plan as finally approved? – another blow for Cork’s quayside.
Well said republicofcork Γ’β¬β there was a strong case for reusing the Γ’β¬Λ50s building, and as far I remember there were 3rd party submissions to this effect at the time. And well done for going against shameless developer parade that tends to dominate some Cork threads.
It certainly does look “bulky” in its massing and the choice of finishes do not help.
Also I love the way in Cork we park cars right up to the quay walls all over the city thus depriving its citizens of any opportunity of a pavement with trees and seating etc.
