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@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Another view of the Cathedral before its completion and taken c. 1909.
Nice shot to compare with 2006 ones taken from the sea.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Re St Coleman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Nice to see that the professional acumen of Terry Pender’s submission to An Bord Pleannala on behalf of the Friends of St. Colman’s Cathedral has attracted positive comments: http://honan.ucc.ie/essays.php?essayID=3 .
Indeed, the contarst bewteen the seriousness of the Trustees of the Honal Chapel and the shodiness of those of St. Colman’s Cathedral could not be greater.
Nice indeed…. and some contrast……to cowboys in Cobh
@Pug wrote:
ABP have given the nod for 72 apartments over 3/4 storeys at the disused site right next to the where the ferry drops you off at Cobh – interestingly the planners wanted a possible allowance for embarking/disembarking area for proposed medium term water-bus service
Good to see some movement on it as an eyesore for years. There was an old wreck of a barge tied up at this old yard (Maritem – used to build fine trawlers there), which over the Dec gales sank….a bit of hasslenow for someone to re-float and move.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Does anyone remember who the steeplejacks were who did the restoration work?
Think it was :
Collins Steeplejacks & Partners Ltd
Ardnacrusha Limerick
Tel: 061 327166@Praxiteles wrote:
Do not tell me that it has fallen into the hands of the dreaded Cobh Urban District Council?
think it did……..
@Praxiteles wrote:
What is currently on the site?
I think part of site had houses built on it for pensioners, just below Rcches Row, just off steps that run from Roches row to Church Street.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Re: c. 1869 picture of Cobh
The church farther to the right was the Anglican church in Cobh. This was closed and eventually demolished in the 1960s (?) or possibly even later.:Late 60s i think, can kind of remember it coming down,when I was a kid or my dad talking about it but late 60s sounds right.
@Praxiteles wrote:
This is a photograph of Cobh taken c.1869 showing the old parish church which was demolished to make way for the building of the Cathedral.
Interesting, have not seen this before. Taken from Crescent ..?
QUOTE=Fearg:Seems this issue has not settled just yet.. Irish Ferries announced earlier this week that they would be selling their old Ireland – France vessel, “MS Normandy” in the Autumn – she is old and probably within SCF’s budget, and might just fit Swansea. However, I don’t know if IF would be keen to sell to a competitor!
Don’t think sell to competitor would bother Irish ferries…if the money right….Irish ferries have taken an option on the currently named m/s ‘Kronprins Harald’. The total cost is in the order of Eur. 45million, including modifications and delivery.
The ship will remain in operation with Color Line on charter until the end of summer 2007. Irish Ferries expects to take delivery of the vessel in October ‘07, after which some modifications will be made to adapt it for use in the company’s area of operation and prior to her entering service out of Rosslare before the end of the year, operating under a new name which is yet to be decided.
Built in Turku, Finland in 1987, it has operated on the Oslo – Kiel route facilitating the overnight cruise market with which it has built a strong reputation.
Built to very high standards and maintained in excellent condition, the vessel represents what Irish Ferries describe as ‘outstanding value’ in terms of the quality and range of on-board facilities.
@THE_Chris wrote:
What a nutcase 😀 Stupidest plan I’ve ever heard for Cork. A cable car? Up a crooked Patricks Hill?
Wow
Perhaps he knows more than he is letting on about the Gulf Stream doing a runner and turning cork climate into something like some who share our latitdue…. I guess with his cable car already in place it would be handy for the ski-ing holidays in Cork…. ah he must have great foresight…
@Praxiteles wrote:
Yes, I think the time has arrived to turn up the heat on the issue of the shameful neglect and casual vandalism of Cobh Cathedral. I am inclined to propose a coalition of interested conservationist groups: An Taisce, The Irish Georgian Society, the Pugin Society, the Victorian Society, and the FOSCC. An umbrella group such as this will certainly move the indolent pot-sitters in Cobh Urban District Council and in the Cathedral Restoration Steering Committee.
Fully agree, the pot-sitters have had all the time in the world and all the money, (much of which has been squandered and wasted)
@Praxiteles wrote:
Nice to see that An Bord Pleannala is now working out the practical consequences of the Cobh Cathedral decision and has cottoned on to the importance of the concept of “liturgical law established by competent ecclesiastical authority” – an idea first brought to public attention by the FOSCC:
You see, the world is watching and paying attention…… Magoo and his rudderless committee might do well to remember this….
@Praxiteles wrote:
Something from this week’s Private Eye: cleraly, one could be forgiven for thinking that there is world wide conspiracy to rid the world of every trace of anything designed or built by E. W, Pugin.
I wonder whether the dilapidation trick is not what is in train by letting Cobh Cathedral fall down into a complete shambles: or, aka, Post-emptive vandalism? (viz posting no.2160 for a complete list of the vandalizers!).
Could indeed, but lest they forget, the world is on to them and their apathy to the current maintenance of St.Colmans.This site has drawn attention to many facits of this neglect, discused, photographed, date/time stamped….. it is quite plan to the world who has their head in the sand…….
They will not pull the wool over anyones eyes anymore or collect funds under false pretences…..they have been proven to lie so I’m afraid anything they try from now on will be looked at very closely.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)@Gianlorenzo wrote:
What is interesting is that the contactor who laid these has not been asked to come and fix them. If this work had been done in a private home and this was the result I suspect there would be court proceedings by now.
There sure would be, if the contractor didn’t make good but in this case I wonder if he/she was even asked to fix them.
They most likely would as am sure they are using the work done in St.Colmans as a reference for ongoing tenders/work and would not like their name associated with un-finished symphonies….But if they have no even been asked due to the incompetence of the current management.. well…..
@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Some further examples of the decay of the mosaic floors in the Cathedral.
Am in correct in saying that this is where the seats are turned the wrong way and countersunk mat should be at top of aisle if the were in the correct orientation.
As to state of floor… after 4m spent.. scandalous…
They are lucky that so far no one has tripped and sued them… any where else would have Health & Safety on them…..
Would you not think they have enough legal bills without running risk of a claim regardless of how it reflects on their stewardship…
@Praxiteles wrote:
St, Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
We have seen some examples of the decay of the interior of the building but here is a view which shows how the sprawl creeping over the Great Island is now impinging on the exterior and general setting of the Cathedral:
And its not over yet…. you can from this shot see cleared areas to NW. alot more sprawl to come here and all along this line going West and East. New sewerage schemes in progress to open all these areas for further housing. Lets hope the Bible gardens by Mount on NE of St. Colmans stay that way and church elders don’t get tempted ot sell off pockets ……
“I suppose it all depends on what you are prepared to spend!!”
Or spend on graniose unwanted schemes..whilst the church around you crumbles….. ….Bishop Magee comes to mind for some strange reason……
@Praxiteles wrote:
St Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
e. Sailors look tot he Star of the Sea
f. Sailors praying
g. Men praying at shrine of Our Lady in a stormCan attest to e, f and g …..
Govt ‘must step in to save ferry future’
09/01/2007 – 15:05:27 – EVENING ECHOLeading Cork business figures have called on the government to step in and secure the future of Swansea Cork Ferries.
The company announced yesterday that they are to suspend all of their services for 2007 after failing to secure a new vessel.
They sold their 35-year-old ship in October last year after it was agreed that an offer in the region of €6m for the vessel was too good to turn down.
They have spent the last number of months attempting to secure a new vessel in the hope that 30 job losses and the route cancellation could be avoided.
A comment was not available from company managing director Thomas Hunter McGowan, but a company spokesman today said that every effort possible had been made to locate a new ship but that it was too late to save the service for 2007.
He said that following a traumatic few days the company would resume their search to source a ship for 2008.
It is understood that the company are extremely keen to ensure that the business does not collapse completely and hopes remain high that the services can resume in 12 months.
However industry sources say that as well as there being a shortage of ferries on the European market at the moment, any ferry serving the Swansea — Cork route required specific characteristics to enter Swansea Port, making the buying process even more difficult.
Solicitor, Charlie Hennessy and, investment consultant, Pat Dineen who were involved in the restoration of the Cork-Swansea ferry link in the early eighties, today called on the government to help the company secure a new ferry.
“The ferry is vital to the region and we must now see the State offer whatever support is necessary. If necessary the State should be prepared to take over the company and operate it as a state service, as it is vital to the tourism industry in the south west,” Mr Hennessy told The Evening Echo.
A recent economic report shows that the service is worth some €35m to the region of Cork and Kerry annually.
A number of other local business leaders said that Cork industry would reel from the massive financial losses that would be felt with the loss of the service.
Conor Healy, chief executive of the Cork Chamber and Donal Healy, leader of the Cork Business Association (CBA) both urged the Government to step in and intervene.
Minister for Enterprise Micheal Martin said he will be holding talks with Minister for Tourism John O’Donoghue.
