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‘The decision will affect up to 79 staff, 65 of whom are based in Cork. All staff will be notified regarding the likelihood of redundancy’, according to the statement.’
Think they like everyone else in East Cork, knew this months ago…
” Ballintotis is a PROTECTED SCRUCTURE. The sacristy was demolished without planning permission. It also seems to e the case that Cork County Council gave no section 59 Declaration for this demolition. Thus, as far as we can make out, the work is totally unauthorized and unlawful.”
Now if you or I did this we would have enforcement officers all over us like a rash. Take hotel in Cashel, allegedly part of all built without planning…. developer has been told take it down. Unauthorised marina in Oysterhaven…told to remove it. Now where are our agencies when it comes to Churches… very uneven playing field here I think.
@Rhabanus wrote:
The final question: WHEN will the Holy See at last decide that it finally has had enough of this ideologically-driven and relentless iconoclasm? The Holy See has the authority. When will it be used? How many more churches have to be destroyed before such behaviour is halted?
A question I’ve asked myself many times ……. Time for that authority to be used…
@Praxiteles wrote:
Further problems arise with the addition of those awful appendages just under the Chancel window.
Daft putting a boiler shed and tank in such a place. For the sake of a bit of extra insulated piping, both the fuel feed and water in/water out, they surely could have put it somewhere else….. its horrible
@Praxiteles wrote:
I am not sure that we can expect too much from Cobh’s architetto!!
Purtroppo!! seems that he is beginning to pick of a few of the local habits…..
And, laugh of the century: the much holidayed former architetto in Cobh, Denis Deasey, in NOW the architetto for CORK COUNTY!!! in succession to Billy Houlihan!!! Is not that something!!
On the basis of some recent new housing and house extension planning applications I have seen that have got through while bugger all is done about St. Colemans., I fear you are right…..
@Praxiteles wrote:
Perhaps the administrator could set it up on the front page with all the poll gagets!
Admin : Would you be willing to do a short poll….? RTEs website often run a nice one where
user gets to see results to date after their entry…. just an idea…:)@Praxiteles wrote:
Do you think that the Cloyne HACK should resign in the wake of their recommendation to wreck the interior of St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork?
Answers should also be kept simple: Yes or NO.!
YES
Thread has gone over the 200,000 views….. 😀
Hope the HACKS are taking note…… indicative I think of the keen interest taken by all in the preservation of our Churches….. :p
@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
What this is all about, I could not tell you. It has a distinctive pagan feel to it…..
Someone went to a bit of expense getting the bases done up…. wish they would go to the expense of a tin of varnish for the doors…..
Would have thought now that if funds so tight they would have gone for long life/low wattage bulbs….
@jungle wrote:
The principal reason it’s not used is because it’s too short for the main airlines at the airport. Only Aer Arann and Air SouthWest can use it. For prevailing winds, a North-South runway and an East-West runway are much of a muchness.
What’s crucial with the short runway is that it’s easily extendable to a considerable length, when the long runway can only really have a maximum of 400 feet or so added because of the fall off of the hill on either side.
When Aer Lingus used to run the Short 360s can recall landing on the East-west one many times coming in from the east. True its too small for most of the current craft.
Prevailing winds….. I would have thought they would but I stand corrected. Do know that even with the current north-south one, the pilots hate it in strong South Westerlies as they have to crab in her so to speak.
If they sell off any of it , just madness… closes their options… as at least even in crosswinds the larger/heavier craft are easier to handle and presumably its larger craft they should be cater for in the future.
The short strip, prevailing winds (SW) means it never gets used as much as the other main one, so they may argue this if trying to sell it off.
@ake wrote:
What is this obsession with bringing the congregation closer to the altar?! Is the priest so lonely up there? Concentrate on saying your mass for godsake.
That always puzzled me too.:confused: …. they quite happy where they are you know…. sware just ask them….;)
THE_Chris wrote:Ok admit it, which one of you wrote this ]LOL…:D 😀
Yet again it just shows how out of touch and deluded the powers that be, are.
Sad isn’t it when, a person has to plead publicly and indeed echo the thoughts of many, with the Bishop to buy a drop of varnish….
He has the power to fix and make good, damage done, get the place shining……. if he wants any element of a legacy to his time on Cobh…. turn the other cheek and get on with the job.
It must be one of, if not the..most photographed buildings in the Lower Harbour……. what must the world think…
They must be starting to think that Father Ted was in fact a documentary….:o
@Praxiteles wrote:
Any update on the state of the doors of Cobh Cathedral? Has the Urban District Council served a maintenance on the Trustees yet? This seems to be the best solution to the problem and should get things moving fast and before the onset of winter.
I certainly hope they use their Council powers and do so without further delay as we’ve mentioned before the state of the place is …..deplorable.
It would appear the Church authorites have their heads buried in the sand as they are not listening at all to what their own congragation or indeed anyone is saying….
Have they any realisation of the Gem they have under their control…….
Basil Faulty would do a better job at planned maintenance that this lot…..
It would appear from the lack of action on maintenance that the will or perhaps know-how to keep this gem in the condition it so dererves does not exist.
Then I say let it be forced upon them……. St. Colman’s should be there for many generations ahead to enjoy and inspire, the peccadilloes of one administration should not be allowed to compromise this in any way
and if they can’t do it, move on, shift and let it to does who can.@Praxiteles wrote:
Praxiteles regards this as a piece of shoddy work which was encouraged by Cork Conty Concil and never submitted tot he planning process. It was carried out under the terms of a “Delaration”
How in gods name how did they get away with this…..
According to : http://www.corkcity.ie/ourservices/developmentplanning/declarations-ageneralguide/ on
Section 57 Declarations :
Depending on the individual circumstances, the following could require planning permission:Changes to the exterior appearance
Works which materially alter the exterior appearance of the building. These could involve the following:Walls: repointing, refacing in an applied layer of masonry, brick, wood, plaster or paint, cleaning, damp-proofing, to any wall surface, front, sides or back
Roof: replacement of existing covering materials or rainwater goods, removal of chimneys or chimney pots, alteration of coping stones, gable or eaves parapets
Openings: replacement of windows, repair of windows, painting of stone cills, replacement of doors, replacement or alterations to fanlights, replacement of letterboxes or door ironmongery
where such work would result in a material change of character.Changes to internal layout
Insertion of any fixed partitions, breaking out of new openings between significant rooms or spaces, insertion of new door openings, formation of ramps and the provision of universal access where such work would result in a material change to the special architectural or other interest of the structure.
Changes to the internal surfaces, finishes or linings
Replacement of internal joinery items which contribute to the special character of an interior (e.g. windows, doors, skirting boards, dado rails, panelling), replacement of integral floor coverings or structures, work materially affecting traditional or historic plasterwork ceilings including cornices.
What is it a Sauna or have Artic Spas & Tubs got a showroom in there…
“protected building and on the list of protected structures drawn up by the Cork County Council” – have some recent experience of so called LIST and damage to a structure…. from my experience of getting any action…I think it is no more than a list…. as no one wants to know…you are bounced from pillar to post… I fear it is no more than a list……
@descamps wrote:
I would not be too sure that the Cobh Town Council is not a standing joke as well with the people of Cobh.
Muppets as two seperate non cobh based engineers recently described them to me……… not just a joke to Cobh people who have to endure some of their wonderful planning decisions…….. seems the professionals hold them in high esteem to……:D
Gianlorenzo wrote:Hi Prax,. The Cathedral is still in a disgraceful condition.:eek: They should be ashamed of themselves.
I don’t know whether the Steering Cmmtte]todays cobh newsletter has a letter from JIm Kidney…gist of which is similar to above, state of doors etc….
You are 100% right on “They have become a standing joke with the people of Cobh” and everyday I pass there are literally crowds of tourists clickin away on their cameras…… What must they think….@THE_Chris wrote:
That first ‘after’ pic above.. the picture is flipped horizontally by the looks of the CATCH alarm logo and the position of the jutting brick wall on the left of it.
Well that means that the door handle is also flipped and if you think about it, the handle is now designed to be used by a left handed person only!!
And when I think of the hammering I got in National school for being left handed by a few un-christian brothers.. ..times have changed indeed, now they are are even making doors for my crosswired brain types…… LOL:D
