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ParticipantDown the South Quays, Sir John Rogersons way ? Irish & British Steam Package Co or summit ?
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ParticipantFrom the rpa website
Spencer Dock Bridge
Works on Spencer Dock Bridge are progressing well. All of the permanent piling for both abutments and centre pier has been completed as well as the sheet piling for the centre cofferdam. Excavation works within the cofferdam are underway and construction of the pile cap will follow. Construction of both the east and west bridge abutments has commenced also.Rusty Cogs
ParticipantIt reminds me a bit of Hiroshi Hara’s Kyoto Central Train Station. I’ve been looking for a picture of it to do it justice but at one end of the main vaulted arrivals space there are about thirteen escalaters which raise you up to the level of the roof and beyond so you’re above the station and the whole of Kyoto. Kyoto sits in a natural basin so I don’t remember the wind being a bit issue but it could get a bit breezy in Dublin if not semi-covered somehow.
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I certainly hope not. Its a fantastic 19th century vernacular building, perfectly functioning and a great corner soldier.
I love seeing its ‘open at 7am’ sign whenever I am on the DART. This would be a disaster. Why can’t they pick on all the derelict sites and leave this alone?
Here Here. I always appreciated the men who would be up and dressed and already at the bar while I was resting my head agaisnt the window (of the Dart) rubbing the sleep from my eyes :rolleyes:
A fine inner city institution.
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ParticipantFrom today’s IT
PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT: The 650 acres of prime development land that makes up Dublin Port is significantly undervalued in its current use and the Government can no longer ignore its potential.
DUBLIN PORT IS undoubtedly one of Ireland’s most valuable pieces of real estate, involving approximately 263 hectares (650 acres) of prime development land that is significantly undervalued in its current use. The potential of the port cannot be overstated and can no longer be ignored.
It is anticipated that Dublin Port will have reached operational capacity by 2008. This leaves the Government with mainly two possible options: reclamation of some 21 hectares (52 acres) amounting to 0.04 per cent of Dublin Bay; or relocate the port.
Reclaiming the land may give rise to a number of damaging issues, such as increasing the risk of flooding in city centre areas and ecological threats. Furthermore, this option can only be seen as a short term solution to a long term problem.
Should the Government choose to relocate the port, they would be freeing up one of its high net value assets. Relocating the port and releasing up to 650 acres of city centre lands may enable rezoning to mixed uses. Under the Dublin City Development Plan 2005-2011 the majority of the port lands are zoned “Objective Z7”, providing for mainly industrial use.
On appraising the potential relocation of the port, you would have to take into account the significant potential that Bremore Port has to offer. Located just north of Balbriggan, Bremore is a deep water port with room for expansion as it has an existing land bank of up to 1,000 acres.
Castle Market Holdings, a subsidiary of Treasury Holdings, was successfully selected by Drogheda Port as partners for a joint venture that will see Bremore transformed into a modern state-of-the-art deepwater facility. Drogheda Port will control a 51 per cent stake in the development while Castle Market Holdings will hold the remaining 49 per cent.
Bremore appears to tick all the boxes as a suitable relocation for facilities at Dublin Port with the process of preparing a port masterplan for Bremore already underway with Bremore expected to be fully operational by 2012.
In September 2007, Dublin City Council carried out a study – Dublin Bay – An Integrated Economic Cultural and Social Vision for Sustainable Development – which is seen as the initial step in preparing a strategic framework plan for the Dublin Bay area, including Dublin Port.
The study identifies seven options for Dublin Port which can be narrowed down to four and sorted into three realistic scenarios.
The first scenario is to re-develop about 51 hectares (126 acres) of the port lands, to accommodate at least 12,000 residents.
The second is to re-develop about 50 per cent of port lands, to accommodate about 32,000 residents.
The final option is to re-develop and relocate the entire port to create accommodation for about 55,000 people.
Opting to relocate the port would undoubtedly be met with stiff opposition as about 10,000 people work in and around the port, and relocating the port would require significant capital expenditure on the upgrade of infrastructure in the new location. Further difficulties may also be faced in securing planning permission in the chosen location.
Having said that, relocating port facilities would allow for strategic and proactive planning, to enable the successful development of modern purpose-built facilities to cater for future needs.
Also, the direct effects that accompany construction work is somewhat lower when choosing to relocate rather than upgrade existing facilities.
Upgrading existing facilities would have considerable impact on the day-to-day lives of locals and workers in the area, with a problem of increased traffic.
Under the National Development Plan 2007-2013, around €481 million of investment in transport is to be allocated for ports facilities.
In Budget 2008, the Minister for Finance Brian Cowen announced significant expenditure in the upgrade of transport facilities.
A budget of €3,837 million was allocated with a number of key improvements which are to be delivered in 2008 and over subsequent years. However, investment in ports did not figure on the list which could lead to the conclusion that Dublin Port is not high on the Government’s list of transport priorities.
The relocation of a significant port facility is not unheard of. In Finland they have opted to relocate the north and west harbours of the Port of Helsinki to Vuasaari Harbour.
Vuasaari is north-east of Helsinki’s port. Initial construction works began in 2003 with the new port due to start operating at the end of 2008.
In order to facilitate the successful and efficient operation of the new harbour there has been significant capital expenditure to improve the infrastructure in the area surrounding Vuasaari, include the construction of a new motorway and the upgrade of rail services.
Closer to home, there are plans to relocate trading activities from Cork’s City Quays to alternative facilities in the Ringaskiddy area of Cork Harbour.
The relocation of the facilities will allow for the significant re-development of Cork’s docklands.
Through a joint venture between the Cork Port Company and Howard Holdings, an application was lodged to Cork City Council for a €1 billion development of Cork’s docklands to include two hotels, office accommodation and residential units and a landmark building.
A new metro system is also planned to service the area and Cork City Council is seeking tax incentives from the Government for designated areas within the docklands.
Preparations for the development of Ringaskiddy appear to be taking shape as in November 2007 the Port of Cork Company lodged a planning application for the development of a new container terminal at Oyster Bank in Ringaskiddy.
In light of the recent media coverage surrounding the purchase of shares in ICG, the Dublin Port Authority has come strongly to the fore playing down the development potential and value of the 33-acre ICG site. The ICG site and port lands have undoubtedly got development potential and, while the Dublin Port Authority may choose to disregard this potential, the Government can no longer overlook the high value alternative use that Dublin Port can offer.
Surely it’s a contradiction to underutilise such a strategically placed asset when strong emphasis is placed on energy efficiency and sustainability.
Mairead Furey works in the development land division at DTZ Sherry FitzGerald
© 2008 The Irish Times
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ParticipantJust to clarify. The whole west wall is gone, now replaced by vertical grey (corrugated) sheet metal, about 7 stories high. I don’t know if this facade is the finished article but it currently has a B&Qness about it.
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ParticipantNew hording posters have gone up at the south side of the bridge works and we have a new completion date, 2010 😮 .
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ParticipantLiving close to the site I can tell you that the skyscraper represents about 10% of the development. That development is still for the most part a massive hole in the ground. The whole thing is due to be finished by 2010 but don’t expect to see anything scraping any skies this year.
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ParticipantWe moved into a new house in ’75 with steel windows. It was always freezing. Remember drawing on the condensation on the little square window panes in the winter.
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ParticipantI think the correct term is ‘Jaundiced Yellow’. Is it meant to ‘complement’ the yellow building beside Siptu ?
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ParticipantPissing down now. Friday will be 40 days if it’s an Ark-U-seek. 😮
Ah dear, (throws himself into Liffey).
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ParticipantMmm, I wonder. I thought the Point Depot itself was being shut for it’s re-gig this autumn. I wonder would he consider keeping it open in it’s currenty guise until the Liebskind theatre is open ? That’s going to be a couple of years though.
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ParticipantDid I say 2006 ? I meant 2007. Has anyone heard anything about this ?
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ParticipantThere’s a piece in the IT today which states the bridge should be completed withing 18 months. That’s far better than the 30 month guide the DDDA gave me a couple of months back. There’s a fair bit of activity going on at the moment anyway.
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ParticipantNot forgetting Ralph Fiennes a la ‘The Avengers’ also in the top pic.
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ParticipantAs I don’t believe there is a thread dealing specifically with the DDDA I’ll post here.
Their website has had it’s long awaited/overdue revamp.
You can have a look at all the future projects and watch their deadlines fly by. Unsurprisingly they havn’t even bothered to guess when the U2 tower will be completed.
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ParticipantWell look at that, I copy and pasted.
Council blocks Anglo-Irish HQ
Liam Carroll’s Danninger company is in danger of losing one of the largest ever office lettings in Dublin after being refused planning permission this week for a €300 million development on the former Brooks Thomas site on the North Wall Quay in the Dublin docklands. Danninger had already agreed to rent around 18,580sq m (200,000sq ft) to Anglo-Irish Bank after undercutting competing developers on the rent. The bank may now look elsewhere for a new HQ. A second letting of 9,290sq m (100,000sq ft) had been agreed with solicitors O’Donnell Sweeney.
City planners objected to the plot ratio of 3.8 in the eight-storey block, saying that it was in excess of the indicative plot ratio of 2.5/3.0 set out in the current development plan. The planners also criticised the “excessive bulk and massing of the buildings” which could result in traffic congestion in the vicinity. They also said it would set an undesirable precedent. It described the proposed ground floor uses onto the proposed urban square and the Liffey quays as “poor” and said it would not create a vibrant public domain or act as a focal point.
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ParticipantLiamo is not having a good week of it. His office development accross the Liffey (half way down stream between Spencer Dock and the Point) has been refused for being to high/dense/uninspiring/OTT and this may give the anchor tennant, Anglo Irish Bank enough reason to run. Seemingly their staff were not thrilled about the move in the first place.
An article in the Property section of todays IT explains it all better than I have.
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ParticipantI’ve been looking out at this for the past couple of weeks wondering what they were up to. They seem to be boring in to the river bed and extracting samples. They have a load of little wooden boxes to hold the samples outlining their position and depth. Each one about 150cm long like those ice samples you see in the artic to monitor climate change. Anyhow, I guess they have to establish the composition of the river bed before they can design the ‘platforms’ the bridge will rest upon.
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ParticipantWell the location of the tower is at Britain Quay which is pictured above. The current construction is going on with an entrance from Benson St. Maybe I’m wrong but it would seem strange to build the foundations, car parks of a huge site with out even the plans for the towers agreed upon, let alone tendered out ?
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