Rory W
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OK slight over reaction – thinking of suburban greens here – but a second park (after the linear park is built) would be a waste at this valuable site!
In terms of pocket parks the one opposite the Olympia and the one on the corner of St Patricks street/ Christchurch place spring to mind. Behind Talbot Street there is two parks – both scary places and at least one has been closed due to drug addicts shooting up there (popular and in active use for certain groups only).
Down in the IFSC the only time somewhere like this is used is when there is a bit of sun and the office workers sit out for lunch.
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Isnt there enough pocket sized waste of space parks in Dublin!!! And surely the Linear park next to the canal will be enough for the area.
The square would just be another windswept piazza, which is all a bit 60s for me. It would suit somewhere like Barcelona but given the Irish weather would be an utter waste of time. Even on a fine summer’s day it is blustery along the campshires!
My main point of contention is that the Koreans have built excellent stadia for $180 million each and we are looking at 2 to 3 times that for ours. I would just like to know why such a large difference in cost!
A thought just struck me on the way home last night – How much did the Government give to the GAA to rebuild Croke Park? I think it was at least £150m – correct me if I’m wrong – Hows about this for an idea give the same amount to the FAI and the IRFU to develop/redevelop there own stadia. Indeed the govenment could assist them in any way possible (PP, project management etc) then everyone would be happy at the cost of £300m. The cost could be borne out through tax incentives and 0% interest loans from the government (and National Lottery) to these organisations. You may even save money by using (near to)duplicate plans for the stadia. Lansdowne Road is a perfect site for a Rugby stadium in terms of transportation links. How about using the underutilised St Anne Park Raheney as a site for the soccer stadium (run a small spur off the Dart line and you’re there).
Any thoughts?
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And the grid street pattern was layed out when the North Lotts was originally developed following the development of the Customs House.
True the place could do with a change from the six storey obsession (and a few more curves/experimentation thanks).
Don’t know how they could put traveller accomodation down there – couldn’t imagine it really without reverting to something like the ones they have in the suburbs (which wouldn’t really fit in the urban context of these areas
Bit of context here lads – Frank was saying that for the economics of the Metro to make sense – then it would have to run through higher density areas hence, if they want to have stations at Cabra, Crumlin, Finglas etc. The economics of the Metro dictate that these areas will have to be knocked down and redeveloped at a higher density. Nothing about destroying the communities.
As a young professional myself – the only reason I was going to buy in Cabra was it was close to the city centre was that it was cheap – believe me I didn’t really want to live there. In the end I bought in Drogheda.
And lets be honest – they aint the prettiest areas of town
Not that I support FF – I just wish that infrastructure (especially public transport) was actually built and not just talked about.
Why oh why (Daily Mail bit here) does every change of government involve taking what bit of infrastructure is planned by the last stopping any movement on it (whilst they re-examine it – i.e. rename a few stops on the metro line) and the relaunch the project, usually just before the next change of government, when the process begins again and continues ad nauseum.
If a company in the private sector operated like this they would have gone to the wall years ago. I think all infrastructure and in particular public transport building should have the politics taken out of it and a company (PPP) with teeth should be given the opportunity to develop it in its entirety – the government should step back and let it run at arms length from the govt. Just make sure they have to do urgent stuff like metro & luas immediately!
But then again I’m an optimist
The bridge is short enough not to be dramatically affected by winds – its not one of those 1/4 mile suspension bridges that rarely get blown away by tornados in the States – when was the last time we got one of those (and dont say hurricane Charlie)
Fire on a bridge stranded train (no need to capitalise – the net version of shouting) – could happen on any bridge – what about the 9 arches bridge in Milltown (Or Drogheda Bridge) a much longer bridge with a greater drop to the ground or perhaps in a steep railway cutting where you can’t climb the sides(I’d prefer to take my chances with the Taney Road Bridge myself)
I’m sure that the bridge will be designed and built to withstand strong winds – and if needs be – closed should tornados become prevalent in this country (which is impossible). Thats what engineers are there for.
From the way you make the luas sound all you need is an outbreak of germ warfare and we have the 70’s disaster movie “The Cassandra Crossing”.
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If Ahern is re-elected as Taoiseach – which I’m sure he will, then surely he will have to continue with projects such as Luas and the Metro (as well as the bowl). If any of the others get in, then we will get the situation where badly needed things like the metro are taken off the plans again and re-examined (adding years to the timeframe) before it resurfaces as the Michael Noonan Magic Roundabout train line. If there was some consistence in Governments in this country then things might get done for a change.
Although FFs slogan should be “A lot done – bloody loads more to do”
Boring, boring, boring
Think of the Frank Sherwin bridge at Heuston Station and yawn.
Why is this structure unsafe Mr Plumber?
It looks like the New Boyne Cable Bridge in Drogheda, is this unsafe as well? Doubt it
