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I saw this image on the indo property section a few months ago – it seems to be the generic ugc style, as I saw something similar in Cardiff (no searchlights though).
Actually – its a huge improvement on what is there at the moment – surely that ranks as one of the worst buildings in the country
The Suday Times “Sue Denham” column suggested given all the delays in building this project (and th fact that there is just a big excavation at the moment) that it should be nicknamed “the pain in the hole” (along the same lines as “the tart with the cart” etc)
Even having a walk around the belfield campus you can see the tricks- the lack of one major meeting place for demonstrations, the odd spacing of the steps around campus (prevents marches) the drive in restaurant (its been said that you could drive an armoured car up or down its staircases, or through the glass wall at the back) there is access tunnels around the arts block linking it to the admin block but they are not the sort of batman type of tunnels people expect, more along the lines of service ducts. Even the covered walkway running along the main axis of the site can be used as an escape route by running along the top.
None of these principals were applied to buildings built later on as Irish students are more interested in getting pissed than putting the world to rights. The Arts and Admin block happened to be designed around the time of the Student revolts in Paris and the UCD hierarchy were worried about this.
Yup Nutty O’Nullain had this particular threat “electricution of passers by” and “explosion of light at tip, impailing passers by with pieces of shattered glass” (bit like the omen really) published in The Times, Indo, Hearald and Star.
Him… bitter…never!!!
You’re halfway there already!
As you say – demolish the East Stand, retain the north and south terrace and the west stand as open, pitch stays in current position – games are still played.
Then build a c shaped half of the new stadium on the site of the training pitch including new east stand/terrrace and up to 50% of each of the new North and South stands.
When this is being fitted out – begin construction of the new pitch area at right angle to current pitch.
When this half of the pitch is nearing completion, rotate the pitch 90 degrees, open new end and demolish north and south terraces and west stand (this process and most of the construction work can be done over the summer period when the ground is mostly idle).
Construct second c shape at other end of new pitch. Et viola – one stadium turned 90 degrees. Ground stays playable for majority of construction period.
Can the IRFU request the use of Croke Park?
My main point is that the stadium should either be at Lansdowne Road or (at a push) Ringsend but not out in the suburbs.
Both Spurs and West Ham have recenly redeveloped their stadia whilst matches were played (without problems from the English FA, UEFA etc) – what is stopping us from doing the same.
And even though the stands at Croke park took 2 years to build the staduim was still open (I don’t understand your argument here)
Turning the pitch 90 Degrees is possible if correct project management is carried out – it is just a question of is the will there to do so.
Kefu – part of the enjoyment of going to a game is the build up and post game wind down. If you have to spend ages trying to drive to Stadium Ireland you will be (a) frustrated because of our appaling traffic and have to find a parking space (b) thirsty – but you cant drink and drive and (c) it will be a less sociable occasion without the traditional Lansdowne Stroll (which is a favorite of all international fans) where you can meet up and travel to the game at a good walking pace.
As regards the residents of Lansdowne Road – the stadium has been there a lot longer than they have (Lansdowne being the oldest international Rugby ground in the world) – therefore the stadium should take precidence. And what makes them more important than the Clonliffe road residents!
As I said in my previous posting the Millennium Stadium was built in a constrained site in the middle of a city (Lansdowne is as easy to get to for construction traffic if not easier). And they managed to do the work while the Welsh (who are far madder about rugby than we are) managed to play during the construction period.
I would have no problem with the glass bottle site either but the stadium should be downtown.
Went down there at lunchtime – for the amount of time and effort (and no doubt money) spent it was very disappointing.
As regards buildings getting graffitied check out the customs house (probably the finest building in Dublin) regularly graffitied by the ignorant junkie tossers that congregate around there. Disgraceful – but there is never anything done about this sort of thing.
Went to the Millennium Stadium at Cardiff last saturday – now there is a stadium in the right location – 5 minutes walk from the centre of town. No need to be concerned about parking. A world class arena with retractable roof and a capacity of 78,000.
Definitely put the new stadium at lansdowne road – it’ll be worth it in the long run and it is important for historical reasons (oldest rugby stadium site in the world!).
Cost of Millennium stadium in a downtown site including demolition of the old Cardiff Arms Park= £150 million stg (€234 million euro) and we are talking about spening 1/2 billion euro on the stadium alone in a greenfield site – why does this not add up?
It’s a brilliant idea – well done city council for thinking different for a change, more ideas like this please
The water tower tunnel in ucd only runs as far as the science block – went wandering down there in first year – the things you do to avoid study huh!
Nothing wrong with the pub culture as such – its the pissing, vomiting and fighting that is the problem!
I’m actually embarressed that the City council refer to this area as Dublin’s Cultural Quarter – if this is the cultural highlight of the city we should be ashamed of ourselves.
Or is drinking our culture?
However can I make a law and order suggestion (in case Mr McDowell is listening), as regards puking, pissing, litter and graffiti the punishment should be a week’s cleaning detail – surely this would act as a deterent to any potential offenders!
The “tunnels” in Henrietta street legend is from the time that roadwoks led to the roofs of the cellars (which ran to the middle of the street) collapsing and exposing same
True, Franks complaints about Goths and Internet Nerds makes him sound like an Auld lad. I suppose its just that Temple Bar was promised by Haughey and Magahy to be a Parisian Style Left bank rather than the big boozer it is. The trouble with Temple Bar is that there is too much in the way of pubs and restrurants and no real shopping ‘centres’.
Other than the IFC the cutural aspects are too new or too small to make the impact on the consciousness.
But what else is there for the Goths to do other than hang out!
Temple Bar is a disaster in terms of waste management (particularly the waste coming from the insides of its visitors). I think Frank has the right to complain as much as any other person who, like me, is disgusted by the state of Temple Bar. Objective or not – Temple bar is a mess, no need to mince words about it.
Grrr – All I am saying is that this is a daft place for a (second) park – go down and stand on the camshires for a while and you will see that it is. It is not going to be a nice sheltered Merrion square but a pointless blank space where the Conference Centre (which has full planning permission folks) should be.
Whilst I agree that the entite docklands area area is now dribbling off to the sea the Roche scheme would still be wrong for the area, bulk and density all wrong
