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ParticipantI also had a walk down the new stretch of boardwalk last Friday – was amazed by the fact the new stretch already reeked of piss – it was quite revolting
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Participant@Paul Clerkin wrote:
I always thought that it would have been better to leave what had been built of the Blue Coat tower intact rather than removing it and putting that copper stub on….
According to Craig Dublin 1660-1860 the stub was all that was built (albeit as a ‘temporary’ solution until funds were forthcoming)
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ParticipantManaged to dig up a small image of the proposal from the Drogheda Independent
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ParticipantNice list jackwade, but missing from the list was the proposed 27 storey apartment tower for Drogheda – planning permission has gone in for it and I think its about 80m and should hit No 6 on your list
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Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
Ulster Bank – it is magnificent alright, the chimneys in particular.
It was well designed, so as to be taller than the others and act as a centrepiece for the terrace.Is it not the National Irish Bank on the corner of Church lane and College Green – Ulster bank having retained a part of an old facade and tacked on a 70’s piece of tat (the corner of Church Lane and wraps around O’Neills on Suffolk St)
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ParticipantNext from the Greens:
Pope: fond of Catholicism
Bears – “well I’m afraid its the woods for us”Any major event in any country is effected by this not just “aren’t the Irish dirty”
Was in Cardiff for the rugby last weekend, in the area where the big screens were the place was knee deep in litter and as for “Fast Food Alley” the less said the better, anyway there was only about 10,000 Irish so I doubt it was us.
A famous case was the Pink Floyd concert in St Mark’s Square Venice a few years ago Rubbish was 1ft deep throughout the square
So It’s not just us
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ParticipantWell the Northern Ireland Trucks still trundle through Drogheda on a daily basis – particularly annoying since they have downgraded the old N1 to a regional road. That’s what tolls do
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Participant@Graham Hickey wrote:
And what of this quote from The Destruction of Dublin – always wondered about these two buildings:
“…Parnell’s fine monument is insulted by a pair of new buildings which are the Tweedledum and Tweedledee of mediocrity. One is the work of Seán Coen, a Galway building contractor, who managed to squeeze a shop and four floors of offices out of his squalid little building, not to mention a penthouse flat, which comes complete with aluminium roller shutters.
The building next door, developed by Liam Lonergan of Club Travel, is a very poor imitation of a fine new office block in Dawson Street and its most notable feature is the use of projecting box windows in screaming day-glo green.â€Were these on the AIB site? Or is the little building refered to the small one that used to be on the Frazer’s site across the road, built of that late-70s orangey coloured brick? Certainly it was squalid 🙂
Was indeed Fraziers site – cack they were
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ParticipantTo be fair they started demolishing stuff way back in the 50s for the Coombe by-pass thats why The Donnelly Centre (Sausage Factory) was set so far back but it took an eon to buy up all the necessary properties consequently there was a heap of dereliction all the way along this route (designed to serve the new outer suburbs of Crumlin/Drimnagh – that’ll tell you how old this plan was) good to see it starting to turn into a street at last
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Participant@Peter FitzPatrick wrote:
anyone got any final pics of what the building beside the fitzwilliam hotel will look like ??
It’s finished now and the tenents Bank of Scotland (Ireland) are in. Almost 30 years after the the rampage started Stephen’s green is whole again. – now please start pulling down the crap on the south side of the Green (KPMG, old Dept of Justice, Canada House, Hainult House for starters)
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ParticipantWhat was originally proposed was motorway
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Participant@suzy61 wrote:
thanks for the info re:updating the kildare line, I wasn’t aware that plan existed. Although I’d have to wait to see it happening before I put too much faith in it, after years of getting commuter trains. The train line that runs at the back of Croke Park, is this also being upgraded and (re)opened?It looks as though it might be, and it would definitely be a great idea
I don’t think that drivers going from Belfast to Limerick should have to go via the M50. I am slightly at a loss as to exactly where you think they should go.Would you mind explaining this statement? What I meant was that the M50 is currently in existence and there are major problems with it. The toll plaza appears to be a major source of traffic jams, along with the Blanchardstown exit, and the Red Cow roundabout exit. Very little thought has been given to how this might be fixed-I know upgrading is currently taking place-but it is only beginning, we face years of sitting in traffic still.Anyway, does it make much sense to just create a second, similar situation, just a few miles further out from the city?With the solution to that being a third outer ring road/orbital road?No thought seems to be given to the source of all this traffic-thousands of people living in the outer reaches of Dublin, with no other way to get to the city.
My point is about the outer orbital route from Drogheda to Nerwbridge via Navan which bypasses Dublin altogether and is far enough out from the M50 hoprefully to be effective
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Participant@suzy61 wrote:
thanks for the info re:updating the kildare line, I wasn’t aware that plan existed. Although I’d have to wait to see it happening before I put too much faith in it, after years of getting commuter trains. The train line that runs at the back of Croke Park, is this also being upgraded and (re)opened?It looks as though it might be, and it would definitely be a great idea
I don’t think that drivers going from Belfast to Limerick should have to go via the M50. I am slightly at a loss as to exactly where you think they should go.Would you mind explaining this statement? What I meant was that the M50 is currently in existence and there are major problems with it. The toll plaza appears to be a major source of traffic jams, along with the Blanchardstown exit, and the Red Cow roundabout exit. Very little thought has been given to how this might be fixed-I know upgrading is currently taking place-but it is only beginning, we face years of sitting in traffic still.Anyway, does it make much sense to just create a second, similar situation, just a few miles further out from the city?With the solution to that being a third outer ring road/orbital road?No thought seems to be given to the source of all this traffic-thousands of people living in the outer reaches of Dublin, with no other way to get to the city.
My point is about the outer orbital route from Drogheda to Nerwbridge via Navan which bypasses Dublin altogether and is far enough out from the M50 hopefully to be effective
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Participant@Paul Clerkin wrote:
I loved the quays way back in the 70s early 80s. My father was a bike dealer and Raleigh Ireland had a factory on Hanover Quay so we’d be in Dublin fairly regularly – alway remember the last of the cranes and the gasometer…
I used to love the way you’d pass under the loop line bridge and you were into another world beyond the Dart line. It acted as such a barrier as if to say “no shopping or offices beyond – ships and warehouses only”
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ParticipantIts in the right hand side of this picture
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Participant@lexington wrote:
It seems to me, that Ireland has little by the way of innovative and distinctively unique contemporary buildings that stand out at an international level – you know, those buildings that actually draw visitors due to their unique qualities. It seems a shame, that in this age of Irish urban evolution and unprecendented development, that Ireland has very little to show for it. Where’s our ‘Fred & Ginger’? Our Swiss Re Building? Even our Millbank???
Will the Liebeskind-designed project at Grand Canal in Dublin initiate the first such building Ireland can call it’s contribution to the world of innovative architectural creation – at a grand scale??? Or even the planned Kyrl’s Quay project in Cork? Perhaps we will have to wait and see – but surely there must be more than the IFSC or Lapps Quay??? Though such existing buildings may be ‘pretty’ – are they really world-class??? Hardly. Perhaps its time architects and developers start expanding their minds a little, and use this time to produce something really special
Ha ha ha ha ha – unless it looks like a mock georgian or bland as hell (business park generic) nothing innovative gets built here. Fear of the new is alive and well in this country
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Participant@suzy61 wrote:
True Adamstown is being built with a train station, but unfortunately, there aren’t enough trains running on that line to cater for the massive population increase that will result from the development. Unless in the amount of time it takes to do the building, Iarnrod eireann manage to increase the number of trains running on that line.
Plus when you take to the roads in your car, things aren’t much better. All the junctions on the M50 are being altered to become clover-leaf junctions, i.e. free-flowing.Because they’ve established that “traffic lights don’t work”.(I think we know that!!)Is it worth sitting through the ENDLESS traffic jams that will result from the construction work though? And one more question-why are there so many roundabouts with traffic lights on them?They cancel each other out!! Why can’t they fix the problems we have instead of creating new ones, such as “outer ring roads”?So you think it makes sense that a truck coming from Belfast to go to Limerick (for an example) should go via Dublin and the M50?
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Participant@Lotts wrote:
Cafe bar deli were named in an exclusive in ” the Dubliner “
And the Times Today as putting pen to paper, but named on the 17th Jan (as per my email) as in discussions
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Participant@Sean Carney wrote:
Madness, London one ring road, Dublin two, my goodness, the irish can not plan a country to save there lives.
I’m Irish but seem to be the only one with common sense and the only one who can see what the real problem is.
If you put everything belonging to a country into one city what do you get, problems, easy.
Decentralise, not just a few government departments, that is not decentralisation.
Use this money to construct a new capital, move judicial services to another city, move legislative services to another, build regional parliments/assemblies.
That will solve Dublins traffic problems, congestion, overcrowding, encourage people to move to other parts of Ireland.
Bottom line, u Dubliners wanted everything, you got everything, now live with the conciquences and shut up complaining.
If you bought a five bedroomed house and put everything into the living room and then complained about how cramped the living room was, would this make sense.
Then you came along and built a second door into the living room because you could not enter due to everything being cramped in there, would this make sense, well this is Ireland!
What you do is spread things around the entire house, common sense.Wake up Ireland, if you want an example of this look to New Zealand and stop making excuses.
Enough of the Dub bashing – bypassing the entire county/conurbation is a better idea than funnelling all the roads to it – ludicrous the idea tha to get to Carlow or Waterford from Drogheda/Dundalk/Belfast you have to go through the M50 (or essentially backroads) a larger bypass is needed.
All roads lead to Dublin because literally all roads do lead to Dublin
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Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
Phil, it was not really a ballroom it was called McGonigles and was a venue that could be hired up to 1995 when it became the ‘System’ nightclub and was closed due to the type of client it was attracting.
But prior to it being McGonigals it was the “Crystal” Ballroom, sort of a showband hang-out
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