Rockflanders
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how many people have actually read the publication? It obviously hasn’t reached Limerick anyway….
Would answer a lot of the sensationalist statements.
Disabled application refusal: Meath – in the last 6 months.
Aidan wrote:And Belgium has properly planned rural areas]I challenge you to stand anywhere in Belgium apart from the first world war battlefields and not see a building.
WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH HOUSES IN THIS COUNTRY!
Is THAT not the main problem. If there were more architects out there anyway that didnt keep regurgitating the same rubbish they learnt in UCD or DIT it might make address some of your concerns.
@Thomond Park wrote:
A sure what a planner know?
For once I totally agree.
As for your opinions on the forced insitutionalisation of disabled people I doubt even you could call on Europe to support that. If a disabled person that requires family assistance is not allowed live beside their family – how can you possibly say that is right? I would prefer to see humans being happy living in pink pvc and asbestos skyscrapers than listen to this preening rubbish.
Dick Roche is not anti development, unlike some of the people contributing here.
@notjim wrote:
what have you heard Rockflanders? my impression was there was going to be a reorganization but the overall goal would be retained.
The whole thing has been thrown out. There is a view now that it should be done in a piecemeal fashion like temple bar or plot by plot like Ballymun. This is after asking the private sector to fork out millions preparing bids. No wonder the PPP take up is so low in the business community. It’s like buying manhattan.
As far as i know the site is to be accessed from the Roundabout at the East Link, there is a Luas Line going to its door and it is beside the Dublin Port Tunnel. It is 5 mins further from the City Centre than Spencer Dock and has the added advantage of being the same distance from the South City with new bridges being built. It is a bigger site and should be (hopefully) a better building than Roche’s pepper potdesign that is already getting old. If the last developer had built the building when they won the last conference centre competition then we wouldnt be in the situation we are now.
@Thomond Park wrote:
Rockflanders,
Alexandra Dock is in Belfast, there are only three Alexandras in the Docklands namely, Road, Dock and Basin and are central to the operation of Dublin Port.
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Not much consistency in that. Alexandra Dock is indeed in Dublin and is the proposed site for the Conference Centre. Last waterfront site in Dublin in fact. Gaudi, there was an editorial in the Times as well I remember reading which seemed to be more accurate. The extract you wrote has been reprinted for the last couple of years now. All i do know is that the planning for the Treasury Holdings site at Spencer Dock means that if they dont win the competition the land has to revert to a public park!! That would actually be a lovely feature on the Liffey.
@JPD wrote:
That sounds like Spencer Dock, does anyone have a link to any of the other proposals or will it be Spencer Dock or Mansfields giant legoland?
Doesnt sound much like Spencer Dock to me. Different spelling for starters.
The favourite in the current conference centre competition being run by the government is the one at Alexandra Dock. There was an editorial in the times a few weeks ago and i remember an article mentioning some questions that John o Donoghue answered in the Dail about it. Same architect as did the Conference Centre in hong kong.
Alexandra Dock is a much more exciting location than Spencer Dock and definitely than Mansfielsds in my opinion.
Well done Jack Wade for table. Handy to see all future buildings laid out like that. For the record, Merchant’s Gate is 64m and is a hotel and residential.
your analogy above seems to be referring to a competition. (If we win, I’ll pay you),
Surely then it is the competition authority that gives the brief, not the client?
My point was about architects who refuse to stick to the brief, need to be constantly reined in, always know better than the judges what will win, and wont work no foal no fee. And lose.And by the way i only know two solicitors who will do a letter like that. 😉
@burge_eye wrote:
If architects don’t fund the projects themselves – in itself a very rare occurence – they are dependent on a Client, of which there are many types. Money alone will not guarantee a nice building. Architecture alone does not guarantee it either. Some of the best buildings around are produced by talented architects, not necessarily in control of a large budget. I think my definition of an ideal client is one who is able to impart a detailed and comprehensive brief to the architect at the outset. The Architect must then have the skill to analyse this brief and, if you like, become the client and to agree a budget that will achieve everyone’s goal. The Client needs to feel that they can take a step back while the architect needs to impart a confidence in a client that they will get what they essentially want – there is nothing worse than a meddling, indecisive client. Similarly, there is nothing worse than an arrogant, diffident or lazy architect. The crux of the matter is good designs result where client and the architect are on the same wavelength when it comes to style, flair and the desire to produce something different. These clients are very difficult to find, epecially when you’re starting out on your career , and more so for the small scale projects you will inevitably be doing.
I very much agree, however i find that the right architects are very hard to find. At the end of the day it is the Architect providing the service for payment. The client is not getting paid for the work, he is spending a lot of money in fact and if he wants to be lazy, indecisive, arrogant then so be it. I think a lot of Architects today think they are the client as you mentioned above which leads to difficulties. If this happened in any other service industry it would not be acceptable. Can you imagine a waitress telling you that you should like the food even if you dont?!!
I do snag lists part time for buyers of new homes. Get back if interested. Structural issues etc. in new houses are covered by Homebond or premier. A snag list is more concerned with finishes and general quality of workmanship. Second hand houses though you will need to get a qualified engineer and architect to survey and give a written report of the state of the building.
Ah Cork, Always wanting to be on their own. You can join us occasionally without losing republican values.
I personally think it’s against the spirit of the site to be linking directly to a thread.Imagine what the world could be like if only the DOE would get up off their behinds and allow an taisce to dictate what buildings should be allowed in this country. We are allowing this utopian dream to slip away from us like dung through the fingers. Shame on Minister Roche and all his unholy works….
