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Thanks for deleting my post. People might have seen it and become hopelessly confused….and then where would be? sigh:confused:
And a picture of Eglington Street just to prove it. Anybody else think it’s a pretentious name- hard to pronounce and hard to spell correctly. Or is that just me? Looks good though.
I noticed that Tesco Paul Street seem to be relocating some of its stock, freeing up the off-license section at the western side of the store. Presumably refurbishment is about to commence. Will we see a virtual or real linkup being made with the St.Paul’s Church ediface of the Cornmarket Centre which is just across the lane from this section of the Paul Street Shopping Centre/Tesco store? Both shopping centre’s are owned by OCP.
Any info?
Frinailla Ltd. have been granted permission for their redevelopment of the former Good Shepherd convent in Sunday’s Well.
The proposed development provides for the conservation of the original Home, Convent and Orphanage buildings and their conversion to 26 no apartments, including 7 no. 3 bedroom apartments and 19 no. 2 bedroom apartments. The proposed development also makes provision for the conservation and conversion of the existing Gate Lodge to a 2 bedroom dwelling. The proposed development includes the construction of 10 no. apartment buildings which range in height from 3 to 8 storeys and consist of 237 no. residential units including 37 no. 1 bedroom apartments, 165 no. 2 bedroom apartments and 35 no. 3 bedroom apartments. The proposed development also provides for 10 no. 3 storey, 4 bedroom townhouses. Parking for the development will be primarily provided in a 3 level basement car park.A large number of conditions have been laid down, including:
Reduction in height of some apartment buildings.
A conservation programme to be established for the historical elements of the site.
All sash windows to be refurbished, with any new windows being justified.
Extensive conservation throughout the historic buildings.
Reduction in parking spaces.
@malec wrote:
And also, now that they’ve starting knocking down these houses, does anyone know what will be built here? I remember seeing a hideous redbrick and blocky proposal for this site, hope that’s not the final version
OCP are about to go to planning for a three storey retail development here with a retail unit at basement level. Design is by Wilson Architects. Number 16 (the central brown building) is to be retained.
Great view of the Crawford extension in this image.@phatman wrote:
Real pity about the facade, I preseumed it was protected, so it was a surprise to see it come down. Apologies about the quality, took it on my phone…
The tool responsible for this should be beaten to within an inch of his life!! How long have these lasted, only for this to happen?
I’d suggest you contact Navigation House with your com[plaints but, frankly, you’d be just pissing against the wind!@daniel_7 wrote:
thats a disgrace! they seem to be really worried about the lack of short break tourism in the city alright ! They go and turn one of the most central prime units on the main shooping street in the city into a bank? …….this was a good example of a prime unit and was lying vacent for months and still not taking over, can anyone explain this? Everyone has there own opinion but I just cant come to an answer , theres plenty of perfect units around that are just simply not been taking over and i dont see this happening in other cities like dub, lim or galway!? take lapps quay,lavits quay, camden quay,gearges quay,hickeys on maylor st and evan mahon point? :confused:
First of all, I don’t agree with CCC that an extension to an already existing bank on St.Patrick Street is a proper planning decision. It is against the thrust of the City’s development plan and reduces the City’s ability to compete with out of town development.
The reason why this spot was vacant for so long was simple due to the time needed to put this application together and get it sorted. The vast majority of vacant spaces on St.Patrick Street are also vacant because they are components of much larger retail developments in the pipeline. For example, the units to the west of Burger King are parts of the fledgling Capitol Cinema Development and the units near Academy Street are in waiting for a positive decision by planners on OCP plans for the block.
Indeed, in my view, things are going to get worse in St. Patrick’s Street – Grand Parade before they get better. You’ve got:
1. Dunnes Stores redevelopment (one entire city block, planning granted, work to begin before the end of the year)
2. Academy Street Development (Almost two more city blocks]Well done it is good to see that your persistance has paid off and it was well directed those buildings are as good an example of their type in the Country.BTW
It is surprising to see a bank take such a high cost pitch[/QUOTE]
I may have over emphasised my role in this 🙂
I passed South Mall/Parnell place late last week. Work is underway at the Corbett Brother’s site at 17, 18 Parnell place and Beasly St. With listed facades to the Parnell place side, the demolition work looked a bit brutal for my liking…part of one of the facades is now missing!@Radioactiveman wrote:
The new railings at the Beamish and Crawford site on South Main Street have been mentioned here before. They are pretty appalling by any standards and detract hugely from what is a beautiful building. A poured concrete wall has been topped with bog standard galvanised steel railings, and then large square bars have been inserted in the gaps in between. Not alone those it look bad, it indicates some level of incompetence that the architect/engineer could not build a wall and find some railings to match.
They were being painted earlier today, so maybe there’s more to come. I’ve attached some images of the monstrosity below.
Its a tiny point, but take a look at the fleur de lis on the large supporting bars- if these had been omitted the look of the whole thing might have been improved- at least everything would have been at a uniform height.
UPDATE
Obviously due to my vigorous campaigning on the matter 🙂 , Beamish and Crawford have sprung into action. The railings are now being painted, the unsightly metal bars are being removed and the poured concrete is being clad to give it ‘ye olde stone wall’ look.
I’ll put up an updated picture when I can get it, but I’m not sure such a finish is appropriate here. Wouldn’t good quality brickwork or render have been more in keeping with this almost industrial location?CCC have granted permission to Irish Nationwide to convert number 34 St. Patrick’s Street (with frontage onto Cook St.; currently vacant) to banking use and join the ground floor unit up with its current base at number 33.Extensive cahnges are to be made at upper levels for office use.
This follows years of applications concerning 33, 34 and 35 (former Burgerland, now Monsoon) as Irish Nationwide tried to expand their premises. The council’s insistance that the conversion of retail to financial on the street was unwelcome was the main stumbling block.
In submissions, concerns were raised that the door at number 34 be retained in the development, as there is ‘good reason’ to believe that it is the original 1920’s entrance. It was also argued that there has been no changes to the development plan since the last refusal and the conversion from retail to financial should not be allowed.
Indeed, the planners report reccomended refusal on the grounds thatthe development would “result in the loss of a preferred retail use on the prime retail frontage in the City Centre“.
As is becoming all too familiar, senior planners and managers within Cork City Council have taken the decision to ignore the advice of their planners. The planners are not perfect, but at least they adhere to democratically established development plans!
The development was granted with conditions which rule out the proposed limestone shopfronts and retain the existing painted cement-rendered front and 1920’s doorway. Importantly, the ‘zig-zag’ detail which survives on no.33 around the doors and windows is to be replicated at no. 34. It was present on number 34 before being rendered over at some stage.
So, maybe a defeat for proper planning, but at least they paid some attention to the architectural merit of the building by refusing the boring new limestone shopfront and conserving the original features.
Lots of demolition work currently going on at the O’Callaghan site to the east of OCP’s Landmark development on Lavitt’s Quay. The site is composed of 15, 16 and 17Lavitt’s Quay as well as the former Cork Examiner Garages to the rear, on Half Moon Street. The space created by the demolition some years ago of 18 and 19 Lavitts quay is also part of this site.
After many seperate applications for components of thsi site, the whole site has been brought together under the OCP banner. No planning application has yet been submitted for the site. I believe number 17 is a listed building.
Anybody know OCP’s plans for the site?
17,18 and 19 Lavitt’s Quay, CorkAnybody remember that supermarket on North Main Street where Mahers/Cummins is now? Started with a B I think. Anybody?
CCC and Cork City VEC have posted notices in the press regarding a proposed development at the old Post Office on Douglas Street, a building which I for one have always liked. They are to convert and extend the building to provide an adult literacy office and creche on the ground floor, with 10 apartments overhead.
By the way, am I the only one who didn’t spot that Callanan’s Tower off Tower Street has been painted a bright yellow colour?In the short term, there is nothing planned for the Loft Site, and both the furniture company and the bar continue to trade successfully. In the medium to long term, I believe it is reasonable to assume that the site will recieve considerable attention from developers.
Im not sure of the damage you are referring to.
Cork CIty Council has granted RIGA ltd, permission for a seven storey mixed use block at their Jurys development on Lancaster Quay. The block will consist of ground floor retail with six floors of apartments above. 12 one bedroom and 18 two bedroom apartments will be included in the block which is to be located where the infamous Block A was removed from the original plans by ABP.@kite wrote:
😎 The photos are great. I believe that CCC have plans to increase by way of license the number of stalls on the Coal Quay as well as requiring those already present to upgrade.
Should be one of the best streets in Cork when finished.And thats not even counting the impending development of the Coal Quay Bar/Loft site, as well as the area surrounding the Bridewell.
@Spinal Tap wrote:
Are Habitat taking the Paul St.church in the cornmarket Street development ?
While we’re on the subject of the Cornmarket Centre, I’ve managed to finally get some images of what the finished product will look like.
From a retail point of view, it’ll comprise 17 retail units on 2 floors over basement on a c.1.5 acre site comprising the old Guy and Co. site and St. Pauls Church. The development will offer units ranging from 93 to 3716 sq.m for food fasion and entertainment uses.
There will be two large retail units at basement level (c. 1000 sq.m. each) along with parking for 66 cars.There will be five units facing on to Cornmarket Street at first floor level (the largest being 753 sq. m.). There will also be a mall area at this level with physical linkages to St.Pauls which will house a retail unit.There will be three retail units on a mezzane level with more on the second floor.
There are lots of rumours as to who is going to take some of the larger units, but they remain that at the moment. Irish and European are handling the retail letting.
Once again Malec, you have outdone yourself!
I’m particularly glad to see the images of the Cornmarket Centre. Just gives you an idea of how close they’re excavating next to St.Pauls Church and those houses off Coal Quay…precision stuff (or not so precise since they made a wall fall down a few months ago 🙂
Fabuloously quirky views of the City hall extension also with the School of Music in the background.@Radioactiveman wrote:
There has been a serious breach of planning regulations at a development on College Road.
“Cliffords” shop (well known to generations of students) as well as no.’s 1 and 2 Westbourne, College Road have (over the weekend, surprise, surprise) been reduced to rubble to make way for a new development on the site. Planning permission for such demolition has not been granted.
PP was recently conditionally granted (04/28769) for the demolition of a portion of the existing shop and the dwellings and to construct 4 no. terraced townhouses along Highfield Avenue. With regard to the properties 1 and 2 Westbourne it was intended to convert these into 4 no. apartments.
Permission had previously been refused by CCC and ABP for the development of 8 no. student apartments on 4 floors at 1-3 Westbourne, College Road.
The applications were made by a Ms. Ann Clifford.The Planning Department at CCC can be contacted as follows, if you feel this merits a complaint:
Telephone: + 353 21 4924321 / 4924324 / 4924325 / 4924720 / 4924722 / 4924723Fax: + 353 21 4924706
e-mail: planning@corkcity.ie
Well, the wholesale demolition of College Road rumbles on. In addition to the incidents noted above a few weeks ago, this morning I noticed that demolition work was on going at the south west corner of the very same junction (i.e. junction of College Road, Highfield Avenue and Gaol Walk).
Numbers 61 and 62 College Road are two more charming, vernacular houses, regarding which a number of planning applications have been processed recently:: permission was granted for 2x 3 bed semi-detached houses on a site fronting Highfield Avenue and to the rear of these houses (05/29358); also, permission has (quite amazingly in my view) been granted for the demolition of number 61 College Road (05/30036). Whoever granted such a permission should hang his/her head in shame.
Number 61 is currently being demolished.
So, in the space of just a few weeks, a very fine array of houses fronting onto a busy junction, which were of decent, local architectural importance have been needlessly dmolished.
Map of the College Road, Gaol Walk Junction
Indicated in red on the map is the approximate site of the first incident-former Cliffords shop, etc.
Indicated in blue on the map is the approximate site of the second demolition (in progress).
I’ll try to post more images later.Dunnes Stores have got the green light for the development of their Patrick Street store after no appeals were recieved by An Bord Pleanala in the alotted time after CCC granted permission for the development. This followed significant alterations from the original design.
Roches Stores exits retail business
(RTE NEWS)August 08, 2006 10:35
One of the best known names in the Irish retail business, Roches Stores, is to sell 10 of its 11 stores, though it will continue to own the properties. 90 jobs will go as a result of the move.
British department store chain Debenhams has confirmed that it will take over nine of the outlets in the Republic of Ireland. The stores are: Henry Street in Dublin; Blanchardstown; Blackrock; Tallaght; Patrick Street in Cork; Limerick; Tralee; Galway and Waterford. Debenhams is paying €29m for the stores’ assets, and will lease the properties from Roches.
Marks & Spencer has acquired the Roches outlet in the Wilton Shopping Centre just outside Cork City, while Roches’ home and gift store in Nutgrove in Dublin will close with the loss of 14 jobs. The company’s support office in Sandyford in Dublin will also shut with the loss of 77 buying and administrative jobs.
Roches, which employed 2,000 people at the 11 stores, says the remaining staff will transfer to Debenhams and Marks & Spencer.
Debenhams already has stores in Dublin, Cork and Newbridge. It plans to convert the new outlets over the next six to 12 months. The Wilton store will open in Spring 2007 and will be Marks & Spencer’s 15th in the Republic.
A statement from Roches Stores said the deal was subject to Competition Authority approval, but full transfer of the stores was expected by September 6. All stores will trade normally as Roches Stores up to this date.
It said its main aim was to sell the business as a going concern to protect the maximum number of jobs
