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- May 27, 2005 at 4:20 pm in reply to: Cork Architectural Firm Award: Best City Skyline Contribution #756304
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Participant4. Patrick A. Cashman & Associates
– for 21 Lavitts Quay (O’Callaghan Properties)
Has to be this one. OCP HQ has transformed Lavitts Quay already.
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ParticipantCan we have a ‘most attractive bridge over the Lee’ poll next, please?
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ParticipantInteresting read in today’s Examiner regarding the architectural history of Cork Opera House – celebrating it’s 150th Birthday this year.

Also of note is today’s Inside Cork which quotes Opera House Bosses as saying that a vertical expansion, along with the replacement of the old North Wall is on the cards for the next phase of renewal at the venue.
There seems to be a very valid case for building up vertically given the height of the tower at the rear. This would also put it on an even keel with the new OCP LAvitts Quay development just up river.

How ancient are you? Which one do you remember?

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ParticipantThe Mannix design looks great for that spot – except for the boxy top which I know is being removed. It should add a little life to this area. It’s criminal that the property owners were allowed to leave it as it is for so long.

This image of Eglington Street is amazing. This place keeps getting better. Whats the latest news on planning?
3 best new buildings in Cork are, in my view: (in no particular order)
a)Eglington Street
b)Lavitts Quay (OCP HQ)
c)Wagamama/Cpt. America’s on South Main Street.
Does anyone know when we can expect to see that long delayed piece of artwork for City Quarter?
Finally, can someone please confirm to me whether the block outlined below is Block A in the Jury’s Redevelopment Plans.

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ParticipantAccording to a source from the Gallery on the radio this morning it was more than one person came up with the money.
As you can imagine, i’m over the moon. Well done Cork, I knew you could do it!As for KITE : “last time i walked the city streets i watched my back.”
Why do people continue to propogate the myth that Cork is an unsafe city?? That sort of talk just scares people.Now, back to the architecture 🙂 Today is a good day for Cork!
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ParticipantAs some of you may know, I’ve been looking for images of the new Cork Archives Institute building in Blackpool for quite a while. That’s why I was delighted to find these on the Archives’ own website. Lex, you may rest easy now 😉
Located on Great William O’Brien Street, at the rear of the old Fire Station it is currently mid-construction and due to finish later this year. The building will feature exhibition and research facilities and modern strong rooms. It will allow the Archives to vacate Christ Church on South Main Street, allowing this building to be used for more suitable, cultural activities.


What do people think? A bit shed like?
For a civic building of reasonable importance its all just a bit underwhelming.Radioactiveman
Participant@lexington wrote:
😮 Regarding Cork2005 , I have to say that a number of developers around Cork should be noted for their very active and generous contributions to Cork’s European Capital of Culture title. Notably the Shipton Group (as mentioned above) for their 250,000euro contribution (150,000 of which goes into Cork2005 projects, and 100,000 specifically designated for projects related to the Blackpool and Northside communities.
O’Flynn Construction are sponsoring the the most valuable short-story literature event (I’m told in Europe!), with a prize of 50,000euros attached – and made a sizeable donation to the fund.
OCP have made sizeable monetary contributions to the Cork2005 fund, engaged in a number of celebrations hosted at its Mahon Point premises and is currently hosting the Pauline Bewick art exhibition at its new HQ in 21 Lavitts Quay.
Frinailla, Bowen, John F. Supple among others have also contibuted generously. Interesting.
I’d wholeheartedly agree, developers and construction companies are contributing handsomely to CORK2005 events and they are to be applauded for it.
On a related issue, the Clarion hotel will host Lynes and Lynes’ much heralded Cork Auction on Tuesday afternoon with the jewel in the crown of the Crawford’s collection going under the hammer.

John Butt’s (previously accredited to Grogan) View of Cork will be sold for in and around the € I million mark. It could be the most expensive painting sold in theese islands this year.
This painting is of upmost importance to the City of Cork and to the Crawford Gallery. I raise this point here for a number of reasons:
(1) As a view of 18th century Cork architecture in totality it is second to none – in fact it is the only view of cork from this period. It is, quite frankly beautiful. The taught of it leaving Cork should bring a tear to the eye of any true Cork person and for it to be locked away in some private collection would be an immeasurable loss to the city.
(2) In the hope that the above modern-day “merchant princes” may read this and decide to do something truly heroic and worthy. Even if its just for the publicity, it would be marvelous to see those so often mentioned on this thread put their hand in their pockets for this piece of Cork’s history.
The City and her people would be eternally grateful.
Radioactiveman
Participant@lexington wrote:
😀 A long long time ago, you may or may not remember (depending on how long you’ve been using the thread) that I put up a post saying “BIG ANNOUNCEMENT SOON!” – but was asked to swiftly remove it? Well, it would now seem the wheels on that project are back in motion. So once again I reiterate the aforementioned posting, but can’t at this stage outline the timeframe – as I don’t frankly know it! But, it would seem, it’s on the way!
Lex, for those relative newcomers (or those who weren’t paying attention) can you let us know what kind of development you’re talking about.
As regards the Kyrl’s Quay project, I’m not overly impressed with the winner- very boring. Second place I like, but unfortunately these plans will be lost to the atmosphere before we see any movement on the site itself- I think.
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ParticipantKyrl’s Quay Design Competition Winners
First Place:
Conroy Architecture, Scottish based Bobby Conroy, originally from Bantry, and Patrick Little
Second Place:
ChristianCarlsen Arkitekfirma, a Danish architectural firm
Special Award:
Donaghy and Dimond Architects (Dublin)
Highly Commended:
BRE (in association with MATRIX Partnership) an English based firm.
Commended:
Kiosk Architects from Cork
Magee Creedon Architects from Cork
Angus Pond Architects from London
Marie Pierre Avgeri, Theophilus Kizos, Irene Stolidou and Maria Kechrinioti from GreeceRadioactiveman
Participant@lexington wrote:
😀 Proper order too! Howard Holdings have seen ABP grant permission for the 12m sculpture proposed outside their recently completed City Quarter development on Lapps Quay. Howard Holding’s were brought to appeal by An Taisce member Tomas O’Scannlain, a serial objector to numerous development projects around Cork. His objection was related to a personal preference to see a ‘water feature’ instead of the quill-like sculpture proposed. The Bord unequivocally decided that the sculpture proposed would ” enhance the visual amenities of the area”.
Damn right too! Talk about a waste of time and energy!! 😡
__________________________________________________________________________________Whats the news on Jury’s, Western Road ?
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ParticipantCouldn’t Cork City COuncil have purchased the Jeanie Johnston if it was going for a measly 2.7m?
It would have made for a nice little tourist attraction down around CHQ. 20:20 vision i suppose.
Go Jurys!!!!Radioactiveman
ParticipantHere’s a craaaazzzzy idea. How about we dispense with the Office tower at the end of CHQ, keep any plans to convert the old Warehousing, knock the shabby Bonded warehouses and place a landmark piece sculpture (a spire, but not a spire) at the point of the island and boardwalk the surrounding quays.
Just an idea, since i doubt whether a tower development at this location would ever get a go ahead.
Just a reminder about this:
Kyrl’s Quay Design Ideas Competition
A selection of entries for this competition, including the prizewinners, will be on display at two locations in the near future.
Bodega Bar on Cornmarket Street 19th and 20th May.
City Hall, Anglesea Street, 23rd-27th May.The area covered by this design competition includes some very interesting, but shabby enough buildings. It is directly adjacent to the Bridewell Garda Station – the second most impressive Garda Station in the city (the first being Barrack Street – u cant beat a Garda Station in an actual Fort!!!)
Next to the Station has to be some of the most impressive gates in the city (Cork Timber Suppliers) and directly across from these is the most impressive public toilets in the City (possibly the country- ok, maybe not)- at least from the outside. With a piece of the original city walls running through the site- its choc-a-bloc with character. Of course I’m not suggesting we keep these bits and pieces in position(except the wall, of course), but it would be nice to think that a few of these quirky little features would be included in the masterplan for the site! 🙂Radioactiveman
ParticipantPersonally, I’ve no problem with removing the Cork Bonded Warehouse section (outlined in red above). As you said lex, it is of no architectural or historic value and is actually detracting from the historic POC warehouses.
I’m glad I wasn’t totally devoured for my views on this site, but Pier39 is probably right, I’ll wait and see what is on offer.
Maiden looking out over the sea- my arse!! What about the head of that serpent St. Finbarr chased down there? Now that would be cool! — I must restrain myself!Radioactiveman
ParticipantI really can’t understand this!
Did Port of Cork see OCP coming? 10 million Euro seems an enormous sum of money for a site which has extremely limited potential. Despite the original POC warehousing, which could (very sensitively) be turned into some sort of entertainment use (its surely too far distant from City Centre for CCC to allow retail) there is little or no space there for anyhting else.
A VERY slim tower at the harbour end could be their only hope- but 15 towers, realistically they havent a hope of getting anywhere near that! And none of us would want a squat little block stuck at the end of the CIty Island.
As for development along the quays, the best they can hope for is a few ‘cubicles’ akin to City Quarter. There’s noway they’ll get permission for anything ‘around’ the warehousing!
If OCP want to pour money into this one, fine by me, I’d be delighted to see what they come up with as regards plans. But, despite my general willingness to welcome most new plans for the city centre, I doubt whether this will get very far and, though it pains me to say so… I hope it doesn’t.I presume I’m going to be shouted down, but I’m nailing my colours to the mast right now on this one.
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Participantlexington wrote:]
You really know how to keep us all on tenderhooks Lex! 🙂
A date for everyone’s diary:Kyrl’s Quay Design Ideas Competition
A selection of entries for this competition, including the prizewinners, will be on display at two locations in the near future.
Bodega Bar on Cornmarket Street 19th and 20th May.
City Hall, Anglesea Street, 23rd-27th May.
Entrance is free and the public are encorouged to come along and see some of the exciting possibilities for the future development of this part of the city.
This competition was orgainised by CCC and RIAI as part of CORK2005.
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ParticipantLex, are you going to put a link to the full version of Cork: Has it’s time come? on this thread?
Whats going on with the Rhino rooms on the Coal Quay and the building on the Grand Parade side of it?Radioactiveman
ParticipantInteresting to note that the Office Supplies Centre at 46 Upper John Street in Blackpool has been demolished in recent days. This large site close to Murphy’s Brewery and the proposed Ladyswell development is in line for 12 townhouses and 5 apartments (down from 14 and 6 respectively).
This comes after much local involvement in the planning process (10 submissions were made in total). Locals now appear to be happy with the design and a submission actually praising the development (after adjustments) was even recieved from local residents.
Having seen the plans, I would say that the scheme works well in an area consisting of mostly 1 and 2 storey houses in narrow laneways. The facade onto Watercourse road however, is worthy of its prominent position.
A final word on CHQ. Of course we should be willing to wait and see what designs come up. However, I for one am going to take a hell of a lot of convincing! It’s a gem!Radioactiveman
ParticipantCan I just say, about Custom House Quay, NO!!!!
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Participant@lexington wrote:
You may remember in an earlier post that I noted it would be a landmark building in the proper sense of the word, and I think you’ll agree, it is.
Looks great even from the blurry image. This is really a location where nobody can object to this development. Its a central, ‘landmark’ (must be careful not to overuse that word) site not adjacent or obstructing any buildings of major historic importance, lots of new building going on around it— its ideal for a modern, extravagant design such as that proposed. Fingers crossed!
@lexington wrote:Though I am going to have to keep my mouth dun suas on this for a while, I’ll leave it at this – the highrise docklands project I was hinting at previously, has indeed reach pre-planning discussion stages. The final design will be built up around those talks. I believe Mr. Barker made a hint at the location in today’s IE – regarding the ‘period warehousing’ and the ‘quiet’ exchange of hands. If you’ve followed the clues over the course of my recent posts, you’ve probably got the location figured out by now. But then again, perhaps we just have wires crossed on the exact property. Hmmm.
If I’ve guessed the location right, taking into account a recent image posted on this thread, I’d be gravely concerned at this news. That is, if i’ve guessed right. Not every protected structure needs the same treatment as the proposed RC development.
lexington wrote:Funny though how, as the main centre of Cork nightlife and Cork’s legal district, that most of the late-night drunken offenders end up on trial at the same location as their offence! ]
🙂 lol 🙂Radioactiveman
ParticipantCCC recently granted permission to AIB to demolish their exisiting bank premises at Watercourse Road, Blackpool, to construct a new two storey bank building with corporate signage, to relocate the ATM facility and to provide 17 no. staff car parking spaces, including all associated works on their site.
The building was designed by BCG architects and according to CCC report it “meets the challenges of the site in an inventive manner and satisfies the objectives of the Development Plan in relation to high quality design”.
The proposed building is two-storey stepping down to a single storey element at the corner of O’Connell Street and Watercourse Road. The front (Watercourse Road) elevation is clad in sanded limestone with sections of inset polished limestone creating points of interest. The ATM is located on the front elevation, while the main entrance to the bank is dual aspect with access from both Watercourse Road and O’Connell Street.
Sadly, I have it on good authority that the CCC decision will be appealled to An Bord Pleanala. - AuthorPosts
