pvdz
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Sorry LOB, I may have attacked you on Gregf’s wording but by suggesting that scateboarders should not be accomadated in any areas mentioned, which are inner city public spaces you seemed to me to be implying what Gregf implicitly stated, that scateboarders should be segregated, except you dont think the corpo should prioritise the building of spaces to segregate them in, So where do these scateboarders go?
I do agree there is damage done by scateboarders, my point was that if the designer was smart enough they would have forseen these activities and provided for them, even by intigrating the scateboarders activities into the programme. Therefore including them into the city and putting paid to Dublin corpo spending a few quid on building the supposed scatepark.
Fair enough too, Jervis park is quite busy on sunny days in summer, but they dont occur to often and it was totally dormant in winter as it was closed off and people could not penetrate it on their path, also their was very little paved areas, so for the other 9 months of the year it was too mucky to go into. Not to mention that it basically needed a huge upgrade as it looked very shabby if not dead, to me anyway.LOB the “few” you talk about would probably be the predominant users of the park, so instead of sticking ones head in the sand would an intelligent designer not consider this and create a park which can be used by all! And how can you be for diversity when you want these skateboarders to be segregated to an isolated part of the inner city when they are real members of the community and therefore must be embraced? They exsist, deal with it. Also you mentioned that the regeneration of the city being a priority for the corp. is bringing new people to a formerly dead area not considered regeneration?
To be honest I’m not very familiar with the customs house at night but I do know that it’s never a busy place. However I do live behind the four courts and have noticed that inspite of the population of homeless people in Ireland expanding by 600% there is never homeless people sleeping behind the columns, this is simply because of the Gardai moving the homeless on from here as they may be more embarrased in the bridewell as to their locality than the gardai in store street who are obviously not hypocritical enough to move homeless people on from the customs house! This is why homeless people always slept behind the columns of St Marys church on the quays. This is however not possible anymore as it has been blocked off with crude black gates because of the vandalism you reffered to. So your absolutely right these areas do ruined if unsupervised but it also shows that if the gardai werent so lazy they would be able to herd these unfortunates on like they do at the four courts, and the millenium bridge if theres lots of tourists about! And being familiar with the lovely Brussels that is precisly the reason why you dont see any homeless people about, because they have an active and quite brutal police force, modelled on the french style. Not because there is plenty of short term hostel space for homeless people. So your right, why give the people of Dublin spaces where they can come to terms with a european style good faith society! theyve never been given the oppurtunity so why bother at all. Also the square outside the Bank of Ireland always functioned v. well as far as I have seen in the past, it was one of the only vibrant public areas in the city. i apologise for the bad grammer.
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I dont know about that, every time I walk past Bank of Ireland on college green I cant help thinking of that amazing space without the railings, filled with people sitting on the steps and standing around chatting. It would be great to see the corpo do something about that, and there would be sufficient amounts of people passing by to discourage vandilism etc..
