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- daniel_7 wrote:just read in the paper the other day that as part of the docklands strategy there is to be something to be incorporated into the plan to attract more tourism to cork like a interactive science museam or something /Quote:an interactive science museum
a nationl design centre and
a national maritime museum“the opportunity to develop a sport and recreation campus building on the infrastructure of Parc ui Caoimh and the Showgrounds should be appraised”
as per the Docklands Economic Study on the web today.
@browser wrote:
I must say I hope that CCC try and direct the GAA somewhat in the redevelopment of Pairc Ui Caoimh.
My own view, and it is a bit of an obsession of mine, is that a state of the art 40,000 to 50,000 capacity stadium should be built on that site. Of this, at least 35,000 should be proper seating with corporate boxes etc. In fact if I had my way it would be all seated as I think the terracing that remains in, say, Croke Park really takes away from the overall appearance of it.browser I think you speak for thousands of people regarding the stadium above. HAving Horgans Quay in my opinion as an event centre is a joke, by all means if they want to maket it as a conference centre thats no problem but Cork needs a stadium. They are looking for submissions on the Cork docklands, why dont you just cut and paste exactly what you wrote above and send it to the CCC? Its very frustrating at Corks lack of development. We get all excited about new buildings that make it past the 6 storey mark which is a shame. Transport is rubbish, rail is years behind, roads are now cancelled funding and the touted major event centre can hold less than the Point Depot. Joke.
Re a new top class stadium stadium all encompassing a range of sports I think we can only dare to dream. So frustrating, they even have a site already.
@kite wrote:
😀 Cork City Manager, Mr. Joe Gavin oversaw many tremendous developments in Cork – I feel we however in fairness we should wish him well for tomorrow when a decision on the appointment of the position of Dublin City Manager is announced
if Joe doesnt get it does he has to leave the Cork job anyway? its not exactly a tribute to his enthusiasm for applying to leave is it? Nice salary for the Dublin job though, €150,000 to €200,000. And the other final candidate he is up against is the guy that took over from him in galway when he moved to cork!
more scarily, does anyone have a top 3 candidates to take over from Joe in Cork?
@phatman wrote:
True, but aren’t we wandering a bit away from the architecture side of things here? But if no-one else has any oblections…
a comment so good you had to post it twice…
I entirely agree, this site is for architecture really but if someone has an alternate site to throw up a thread on transport and add in a link here then we would be set
gatsby wrote:the idea of re-introducing light rail into cork is fascinating not only because it would have such a dramatic impact on city life but also because it is an obvious AND viable proposal.If the rail lines were actually constructed and these proposals became a reality, then i feel the next stage would involve a two-pronged branding strategy that would aim to]
I think this deserves a thread of its own, not because I think it doesnt fit here but because I think people have so much to say about transport issues in cork and the distinct lack thereof, that it would generate a whole new discussion – the site is superb for getting people animated about buildings with relevant and decent opinions from all so why not do it for the transport in Cork?
Some sort of light rail/metro is absolutely VITAL for cork. We need our own transport plan instead of that Transport 21 rubbish. The CSAP set out the plans for transport links but the frustrating thing is there is never any action on it. In Examiner today, the NRA has cancelled the funding for the sarsfield and bandon rd flyovers – thats simply beggars belief as all the traffic from the kinsale rd will just mve on down there. The removal of Martin Cullen from office is also vital if anything is to get done. Stick Michael Martin in there and we might have some slim chance, not because I have anything to do with FF but because Cork needs some sort of senior representation in the Dail.
Its whispered that B Crowley withdrew his plans for the 6 storey office in hanover st?
@Thomond Park wrote:
In public transport terms I think that Cork was ignored in the Transport 21 package essentially all it got was the reannouncement of the Midleton extension.
.i agree completely on that one, its a disgrace. Only hope is, the plan was so bad and an election so near, it can be made an issue again. Some light relief at the moment given that the schools are off.
Anyone see a bbc program on English designer/architect/engineer Thomas Heatherwick last night? makes the current trends look prehistoric.
Shipton Group are on final phase of Blackpool, due to finish it out in July / August – will there be a move on Douglas / Carrigaline after that do you reckon?
It seems very very late or a token gesture by An Taisce to be appealing to ABP. They must see that particular shopfront all the time so why now so long after its done?
and What is a ‘retention’ request anyway? Is is simply that someone builds something they are not supposed to and goes back after for planning permission?
Either give permission at the time of planning or dont. And if someone builds something other than they were permitted to then fine them and put a black mark next to their name for their next planning permission request. Very simple.
@seonaf wrote:
I have a drawing (issued by a large Transport Consultancy firm) that shows new road proposals for the area. However, the Council are denying knowledge of these but I think the Consultancy firm were commissioned by the Council (perhaps for a Traffic Study a few years ago)
having grown up there, douglas was never designed for the level of traffic it gets every day and nothing significant was ever done to fix it – I can add no extra info for you but if you can get the image of the plans you have on this site, i’d be very interested out of mere curiousity
Pana01 wrote:Kinsale bypass seven months ahead of scheduleQUOTE]Two aspects to that
a) Is it the same ‘ahead of schedule’ as the ballincollig by pass which wasnt ahead at all, it was late but a bit of pr and adding a few months to the finish date before announcing it sorted that out !(sorry, i’m very cynical since 2 drivers were allowed halt the entire rail system)
b) If they can finish that ahead of schedule that much then we can look forward to all other infrastructure projects in the future coming ahead ahead of schedule and under budget (seven months wages saved)!!
@lexington wrote:
a pivotal site under the ownership of O’Callaghan Properties (at 16 Lavitts Quay) – to the east of their 21 Lavitts Quay development, have been issued with a Vesting Order
.for the un initiated, what happens when a Vesting Order is put in place?:confused:
@lexington wrote:
It is opposite (across the dual-carriageway from) the Statoil Petrol Station and Xtra-Vision store in Bishopstown. The former Esso station has since been dismantled.
looks a bit bigger than 1.1 acres doesnt it? – fine site though
@lexington wrote:
It seem the Kelleher-family are now to put their 1.1 acre assembled site near Cork University Hospital on the market
i can see it on google map but broadband and lack thereof (isnt that a complete disgrace) prevents me from getting an image for you
Is it the site on your left, if you were going towards the wilton roundabout? Directly opposite that little retail park?
@kite wrote:
🙁 8-10 storeys with a nice design would be good for this area. Like you say, every building being approx the same height is not going to be very pleasing to the eye.
point taken, you’re prob right – surely it can be made up for if the look of it on the outside makes some sort of statement. Has to be better than what was there in fairness.
@lexington wrote:
Crows Nest approved
excellent, good to see buildings of that size, hopefully it will look better than Victoria Cross – CSD will go nuts.
lexington wrote:🙂 The Conway-family controlled Frinailla Developments are to lodge plans for a site on the Tramore Road they purchased earlier this year from Kanturk-based John Keating. {/QUOTE]wow, nice move frinailla – always amazed how some people cant get planning and sell on a site and developers are very confident of getting planning then – saw site alright, superb access off south ring road.
@lexington wrote:
CIE had attempted an appeal against the Oyster Developments proposal to convert No.8 Parnell Place to office use – their arguments include that it may inadvertently compromise their intention to redevelopment the Bus Station on Anderson’s Quay at a later date.
what a cheek – after years of waiting on Horgans Quay and a poor attempt at a bus station redevelopment they objected to a building that might affect them in the future? what a brilliant precedent that would have set.
I posted a query before as to what was happening with the new City Hall – there was a horrible metal cage going up all around it – just noticed there that a big layer of glass is going up on the metal frame, looks pretty cool actually
Seems to be nothing on water street yet
@mickeydocs wrote:
also the bus station should be up for redevelopment in the future
the bus station? again? dont tell me they are going to do it now when it could have been spared the half an effort and a coat of paint that went into it the last time?
