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its well needed, but years late if they are only starting discussions now
its good that trevor sergeant at least made the effort to mention Cork and transport because we are sadly lacking and absolutely no one in the government gives a hoot about cork and transport – just look at the €4m lick of paint and shops (and digital clock) thats going into the kent station instead of the €25m revamp that was promised by martin cullen in 2005, the airport fiasco, no late buses, no decent bus service to main suburbs like carrigaline, its idiocy
whats the whisper on wernda and water st? was due for decision yesterday – bord pleanala havent updated their info yet
@carrigdhoun wrote:
Case has been put back again to the 06-12-2006 (Tomorrow).
thats when the plans are made public, i suspect its already decided so they might be arguing over the last details – CCC really dont have a come back with eglinton st zooming up at a rate of knots
did anyone hear about the WERDNA decision? wasnt that meant to be on friday? I hope it goes through (especially given that The ELysian is now the precedent….)
@Praxiteles wrote:
Friom the quondam Cork Examiner of 1 December 2006
01 December 2006Ryanair spells trouble for airport income
SO Ryanair wants to use the old terminal at Cork airport and open 17 new routes. Exciting times. A million extra passengers per year.
But what will be the cost to Cork airport? Check with Shannon.
They lost five or six airlines with the arrival of Ryanair which is only paying 50c a passenger when the others were paying full rates of €9.
Gone are Hapag, Lloyd Express, Thomsonfly, FlyBe, British Airways and Eirjet, as well as Easyjet.
Ryanair drove Go Airlines and Easyjet out of Ireland.
When Easyjet left Cork airport, Ryanair reduced their flights by one a day to Stansted and Gatwick. Now Ryanair have Aer Arann out of Cork in their sights and, as Michael O’Leary says, “Aer Lingus are nextâ€.
Shannon airport has an extra one million passengers, but at a cost of over €10 million in lost revenue.
Ryanair admits it cannot get the yield it wants in Shannon, so God help them when Ryanair cuts back and the others are gone.
Evan White
4 Victoria Villas
Western Road
Corkdont agree with that at all, definitely some vested interest or something. Theres a lot of airlines pulling out of Cork already and Ryanair arent based there at all. Perhaps its because 140m was spent on a lovely looking highly impractical airport that has no viewing gallery, no airbridges, long waits for baggage and a long long walk to the terminal where you climb stairs to get in
@Praxiteles wrote:
From to-day’s Irish Times
[A selective guide to developments in your area
AN BORD PLEANÃLA
APPEALS
.any particular reason we were treated to planning decisions mostly from dublin?
also in the examiner, the first steps in a huge devt in Blarney called Stoneview, a possible 10 year €1bn mainly residential but also other retail, services, schools etc to go along with it – if anyone can find the article, put it up
was there a final verdict on the CPO of the showgrounds yet?
@Praxiteles wrote:
Ay, Kite! Ther’s the rub..whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outragous fortune or take arms against a sea of troubles and by so opposing, end them!
any chance of stopping that mullarkey? between cobh and kristallnacht and literature i’m fed up
Would anyone have the inside track on the airport debt? Ryanair were due to meet the cork councillors and td’s i think yesterday about taking over the old terminal
@Pug wrote:
Today the Minister for Transport has confirmed the establishment of a Dublin Transportation Authority.
I’m sure we’re next!! any day now………
ah well, it was good while it lasted, the interim head of the DTA resigned yesterday when she found out that
the DTA will not, as recommended by her team, have power to override local authorities on land-use issues to make sure their plans are not inconsistent with transport objectives.Mr Cullen said the Government had decided not to accept all the recommendations of the team on the basis that they might dilute the “democratic accountability” of the planning process. Whereas the planning and infrastructure bill currently in process that leaps an application straight to Bord Pleanala doesnt dilute the process at all.
@jungle wrote:
(When I looked, the Glucksman was top followed by the ne airport terminal and North Main St car park was just behind Victoria Mills)
thats more like it
are you joking? mahon point voted the best building in Cork? its a long grey corridor. Surely there was more votes than 1846
@Pug wrote:
Cork Transport Authority required ASAP.
In smaller papers recently that Cork is to get Double deckers back again. I’d prefer a highyl frequent smaller bus service for in/around the city and the higher volume ones then going to the suburbs. Bus service in carrigaline diabolical.
Today the Minister for Transport has confirmed the establishment of a Dublin Transportation Authority.
I’m sure we’re next!! any day now………
@jungle wrote:
I don’t know if I agree with this proposal. A decent number of travellers on the bus are students attending Douglas Community and Colaiste Chriost a’ Ri. It wouldn’t work for these passengers, nor would it work for travellers between the South Douglas Road and town.
i should have clarified, i meant the bus should go both ways, an express from grange from super value car park or someting, i’m sure they wouldnt mind a lot of people wandering into their shop in the mornings for coffee and sandwiches! and then the usual route the other way. as someone said in another post, needs to be a regular bus up to the airport bus pk as well, either from town and/or suburbs, a quick poll of workers there would sort that.
Jerry “CSD supporter†Buttimer after 5 Minutes in city council and still wet behind the ears now proposes that Cork City Council withdraw the 10 million funding for Green Bus routes in the city as they do not work.
I almost agree that the funding should be pulled UNTIL someone sits down and drafts a proper Green Route for Buses – i am thinking of the “green route” from frankfield to douglas whereby the bus gets full at grange, the bus then tears down the hill, turns left at grange cross where the existing traffic was squashed into one lane and then the bus joins in the traffic at the end of the hill anyway so what was the point of spending all the money? It was simply road markings that went in AND the bus co STILL ignores the other direction from frankfield which leads directly on to the main artery in to the city and surely could be used as an express route
@kite wrote:
A number of important issues are due to come back from the Planning and Development Strategic Policy Committee meeting today.
what did come out of that meeting? – those councillor proposals are so piecemeal and ambiguous its not funny. Why dont they propose items such as “that this council not grant any developments in designated suburbs without a roads and public transport assessment proving that it will not add to congestion” – they cant just ad hoc decide they dont like anything over 3 storeys – that just ADDS to urban sprawl, congestion, strain on public transport etc – its lucky they have no power
Cork Transport Authority required ASAP.
In smaller papers recently that Cork is to get Double deckers back again. I’d prefer a highyl frequent smaller bus service for in/around the city and the higher volume ones then going to the suburbs. Bus service in carrigaline diabolical.
@browser wrote:
Any sign of a design for the proposed Blackpool/Kilbarry Station? Isn’t that supposed to open in 2008 also?
in the same way that kent station is supposed to be facing the quays fairly shortly and instead it looks like we get fobbed off with a €4m upgrade (with a digital clock! wow!) and even if they do eventually change it around, i am not an engineer but wont a €25m project to change the entire station around affect a €4m upgrade thereby rendering it a waste of money?
whatever about the city council, it was in the examiner today that the County Council had to settle their dispute over buying 20 acres in charleville at a hugely inflated price from the bank manager and his business partner – why didnt they pursue it?
