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development of the former esso garage at bishopstowm refused due to:
1. pedestrian and traffic hazard
2. Height,scale, bulk would be incongruous with surrounding buildings (? doesnt the hospital have height scale and bulk?)
3. Over looking adjoining residential propertiesDoesnt anyone do pre planning?
The application was for construction of a five storey mixed use building ( 11,052m2 gross floor area) over 3 basement levels of car parking (289 spaces), comprising, – 7 units of retail with optional additional use of restaurants, financial services and professional services,
as for RDJ, could they not just be acquring that on someones behalf?
@Spinal Tap wrote:
IRISH RAIL – SOMEDAY WE WILL BE A GOOD AS WE WERE IN 1875.
thats brilliant, what about
IRISH RAIL – SLOWER NOW THAN 1987
@Cathal Dunne wrote:
Does anyone have any clue what this Asian script is saying?.
Calls for a caption competition
Its CIE’s latest marketing given that Cork is now twinned with Shanghai
It says
WELCOME TO KENT STATION – IRISH RAIL, WE’RE GETTING THERE ….EVENTUALLY
@goldiefish wrote:
Since 2005?????
Its been an election promise since about 1980.
thats true,
you’re thinking of 2005 because it was the year we were promised that kent station would get 25 million to be turned around and face the quays and be integrated with the bus station – going to cost a lot more now, at least 4 million more given that this is what they are spending on the lick of paint and a few more shops in the revamo they are doing now and all will have to be disturbed surely when the station is turned around –
@Spinal Tap wrote:
Surely there must have been pre-planning discussions on this submission ?
You would hope so anyway. (that means no, there wasnt ).
If there was pre planning then it would appear the unoffical nod has been given to the 20 and 24 storey buildings, which begs the question as to why the Werdna decision
a)took so long and
b) was restricted from 17 storey building to 10.I imagine it was restricted to keep the views of the people living up on the hill behind it, in which case there must be people living right behind where the 24 storey building will be?
Decision due on the esso garage in bishopstown today for 5 storey mixed use building
Micko wrote:Adding a slip road from the Douglas Road onto the South Ring Road going west would do an awful lot for improving the traffic situation in Douglas.QUOTE]
absolutely correct. Traffic in douglas needs big change and has been that way for years – surely putting traffic lights in at the roundabout by the shell garage is an obvious one? shouldnt be any need then for a garda to be wasting their time having to direct traffic at the well road juntion then
i thought the airport was designed for 3million passengers? well, they hit that last week so roll on the summer to see how it will cope!
@kite wrote:
:Evening Echo 2007.
OCP is to evoke a condition of planning to get out of providing an event centre in Cork??…….………YES I am pessimistic, with the Cork Mafia in full flight who wouldn’t be?
Dont think its teh best spot for it anyway – Mr J Gavin is determined to have an event centre at horgans quay,a 5,000 seater which would be fine if the station had been moved around when promised (wont happen for at leat 3 years in my opinion) and it would make sense that people could come off the train/bus and go there
Will say it again but Pairc Ui Chaoimh needs to be razed to the ground and a 50,000 seater stadium for matches across all sports and concerts, add in the conference center and it would be superb
@rebel_city wrote:
I am wondering what is the total sq footage being created by the Academy street development and the Cornmarket street development? 🙂
academy st about 11,000 sqm and cornmarket st about 15,000 i think
talks again of new roads happening in douglas to alleviate the traffic – piece in local paper Cork Independent on property owner Dan O Mahony who proposes new roads as follows – whether or not they will happen is another thing entirely
a) when coming down from grange, a new road at grange cross going straight over to carrigaline road
b) a road from inside shamrock lawn (inchvale road) that will go behind the schools over to South Link
c) a road going from frankfield straight down to south link west of Amberley estate
d) west douglas i.e. the one with the bike shop and credit union, to be made one wayDan O Mahony proposes a PPP between himself and the County Council – could be a lot of roadworks if Clayton Love get involved in redeveloping the other side of douglas
@bunch wrote:
that’s standard, the decision is not publicised until the relevant parties have been notified formally, and that is usuallytwo/three days after a decision.
thats fair enough, a good point but I’ve heard first hand of occasions where people have celebrated the granting of planning and the official announcement came 2 days later
@carrigdhoun wrote:
Water street was decided today. Details will not be available before Dec, 25th.
you’d wonder why details arent available until christmas day, why even do that? does that mnean its granted or not? what does it matter to try and keep details secret over a holiday ? why even state that on their planning? thats a disgrace
@THE_Chris wrote:
Not having an offlicence is just daft. Whats the reason for that?
Prob saying something about an anti social element gathering or something. Do people gather around off licences? Anyway, LIDL can appeal it if they want to. That would be funny.
What about Water St – anyone hear if they have managed to make up their minds?
werdna / water st pushed out to the 20th – its just silly now – why push it out to the same day date?
a tad extreme but there should definetely be an inspection into the decision where planning authorities grant permission for developments and bord pleanala then come along and refuse it outright or apply 20 conditions. ABP should be a last resort, not something for the planning authority to use, the planners should be wondering what they are doing so wrong for ABP to change their decisions
ABP have pushed out the Werdna decision to ……………?
14th December
and it now apparently is for 233 units instead of 304
a quick scan of the examiner this morning, Academy St due for a decision early next week, and oddly enough, CIE and Manor Park homes due to apply for 2 separate sites at their 17 acres at Horgans Quay, apparently somewhere between 1,000/2,000 apartments and 25 storey towers. Now do you think they are waiting on the result of Werdnas 17 storey application which would be right next door to them? And its amazing how CIE are motivated enough to get planning in for a mixed development but wont redevelop Kent station that they promised in Jan 2005
