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- September 2, 2009 at 7:48 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773077
Praxiteles
ParticipantSome of their work in Westminster Cathedral:
http://www.westminstercathedral.org.uk/art/art_mosaics_2.html
September 2, 2009 at 7:41 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773076Praxiteles
ParticipantSomething on the company:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Powell_and_Sons
http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/wiki/James_Powell_and_Sons_(Whitefriars)
http://www.glassfairs.co.uk/Articles/wf-history.html
http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/6440
An example fo their work: a war memorila

Something similar is to be seen in the Honan Chapel in Cork.
September 2, 2009 at 7:38 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773075Praxiteles
ParticipantFor our archival collection: The opus sectile work of James Powell and Sons, LOndon.
This register of locations has been extracted from the company registers on deposit in teh Victoria and Albert Museum. Much of the work was done for locations in England but a a significant number of enteries apear for locations in Ireland:
http://www.tilesoc.org.uk/pdf/opuslist.pdf
The following enteries are Irish commissions: 304, 310, 358 (Corkbeg), 391 (through Buckley of Youghal); 392, 396, (through Buckley of Youghal for Tullow, Co. Carlow), 420 (through Buckley, Youghal, for Convent of Mercy, Cahir), 611, 612, 617, 707, 728, 729, 754, 771, 818, 827, 841, 852, 885 (St. Anne’s, Shandon), 887, 898, 908, 914, 930, 958.
Interestingly, a number of glass makers used this comnpany to provide goods to their clients. Buckley of Youghal and also Hardman of Bermingham with the provision that when delivered the name of Powell shuld not appear on the cases.
September 2, 2009 at 6:25 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773074Praxiteles
Participant@Fearg wrote:
St Patricks is grade B+ listed
http://www.ni-environment.gov.uk/built/buildview?id=1663&js=true
Does this mean anything at all in Northern Ireland?
September 2, 2009 at 3:49 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773072Praxiteles
ParticipantAnother example of some fine metal work:

“The main entrance to Saint Mark’s Episcopal Church (1847-1849) is through these doors, donated to the church by a member of the Fisk family of Philadelphia. The doorway was designed by architects Zanzinger, Borie & Medary in 1923 and was created by the famed Philadelphia studios of Samuel Yellin and Nicola d’Ascenzo”.
September 2, 2009 at 7:45 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773071Praxiteles
ParticipantIs St. Patrick’s Dungannon a listed building?
September 1, 2009 at 10:11 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773068Praxiteles
Participant@Fearg wrote:
Its not yet been rededicated, notice the empty tabernacle stand, I dread to think what will sit there on Sunday next. Very sad indeed considering that until recently this church had survived more or less intact. Not sure of the architect… I wonder..
Not sure of the architect…well it will not be too difficult to find out.
September 1, 2009 at 9:49 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773066Praxiteles
Participant@Fearg wrote:
On the subject of McCarthy designed churches – St Patrick’s in Dungannon has recently undergone the usual tired old treatment:
http://www.parishofdungannon.com/Fund%20Raising/Concert%2021%20Sept/index.htm
and for the purposes of comparison – a shot from the Irish National Library’s collection:
http://digital.nli.ie/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/glassplates&CISOPTR=17614&CISOBOX=1&REC=3
Earlier in this thread and on another dedicated to JJ McCarthy, Praxiteles seems to recall that of the three major Gothic revival architects of the 19th century in Ireland (E.W. Pugin, Ashlin, McCarthy), it was McCarthy’s oeuvre which attracted the most vehement vandalism: just think of Monaghan Cathedral, St. Saviours in Dublin; Tramore, Co. Waterford. It would be worth a study to explore the psychological recesses of the mind-set responsible for such wreckage.
September 1, 2009 at 9:46 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773065Praxiteles
ParticipantSt Patrick’s, Dungannon.
Well, Praxiteles believes that the photograph in this link speaks volumes about the loss of even a risidual sense of the sacred in Christian worship. Clearly, we are dealing with a musical or theatrical entertainment. That an altar, which is supposed to represent Chirst, could be so vested with frippery is a sure sign of the total absence of any religious sentiment or consciousness:
http://www.parishofdungannon.com/Fund%20Raising/Concert%2021%20Sept/pages/IMG_7547_jpg.htm
August 31, 2009 at 11:14 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773063Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Cathedral of St André in bordeaux. The 18th. communion rail. This in fact is not the original rail but one installed in teh Cathedral in the post revolutionary restoration. It originally belonged to the monastery of Sts peter and Paul – as can be seen from the medallions on the central gates. The rail is by the mastercraftsman Blaise Charlut.






August 31, 2009 at 10:47 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773062Praxiteles
ParticipantSome further examples of fine 18th. century French ironwork: this time, the bow fronted altar rail in the church of St. Michel in Bordeaux which mercifully survived the revolution and is still in place despite the liturgical vandalism of the 1970s and 1980s.



The nmedallion here depicts St. michael, the Archangel, patron of the church.
August 31, 2009 at 9:09 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773061Praxiteles
Participant@Canus wrote:
Good to see that Buildings of Ireland site is now proving so useful.
Clonea Church is very striking for a place of its size.
McCarthy’s other major Co Waterford church Holy Cross Tramore, was badly done over under influence of Ausetn Flannery OP around 1970
Tramore is beyond lamentation!
August 30, 2009 at 6:12 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773059Praxiteles
Participant@Canus wrote:
Clonea Power Church is by JJ Mc Carthy C. 1860 , Is very impressive in its scale and location, in a beautiful part of Co Waterford behind the Comeraghs.
Plans do no reflect the quality of the church, particularly in blanket wall to wall instillation of ” polyfloor kudos whitle marble vinyl covering ” in scanturary and side chapels and large square “polyfloor vinyl tiles over ardex surface “in nave and aisles. Description is awful enough , just think what Pugin would say. No regard given to existing floor surfaces both original and exposed or currently covered over. McCarthy favoured small diagonal red and black tles in aisles. A church of this quality would be expected to have encaustic tiles in scanturay, which is currently carpeted.
Scantuary extension into nave is unneccessary
Can anyone visit ? Plans are on Waterford Co Co website ref 09/487
Photo on Co. Waterford Image Archive as follows :
Number : EB14
Title : Clonea-Power Church
Description : The front facade of Clonea-Power Church with a group of men standing outside. The church in Clonea-Power was built in 1860 at a cost of £6,000 by the Rev. Timothy Dowley, P.P.. The architect’s name was McCarthy.
Photographer : Brenan, Edward
Image Date : Circa 1910
Museum Contact : Fraher, Willie
Donor : Name Kept Private
Archive Url : http://www.waterfordcountyimages.org/exhibit/web
Copyright : Co. Waterford Image Archive
Canus,
Is this the church we are talking about?
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=images&county=WA®no=22802008
August 29, 2009 at 8:41 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773058Praxiteles
ParticipantNotre Dame, Bordeaux (1684-1693) by Pierre Duplessy-Michel.

The High Altar:

The Nave:
August 29, 2009 at 8:36 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773057Praxiteles
ParticipantThe church of Notre Dame, Bordeaux
Some further examples of very fine French 18th century metal work are to be found in the choir grille of Notre Dame in bordeaux and in the Baptistery of the same church.
They were done by Jean Moreau and are dated 1781:



The Baptistery:

I suppose in terms of the Cork County Conservation Office, these would be regarded as “gates”.
August 28, 2009 at 4:29 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773056Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Baptistery of St. Jean at Poitiers.
Some internal pictures:
Towards the East




Ceiling of the Eastern Chapel

August 27, 2009 at 8:59 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773055Praxiteles
ParticipantSt Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Another rather interesting view of the angles on G.C. Ashlin’s pulpit in Cobh Cathedrakl:
August 27, 2009 at 8:33 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773054Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Baptistery of St-Jean in Poitiers. Dating from the late 3rd or early 4th century, this is the oldest Baptistery in France. It underwent rebuilding in teh 6th and 10th centuries but still retains its late antique aspect.
The exterior:




The 3rd century pool in the Baptistery at Poitiers:
August 27, 2009 at 8:13 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773052Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Church of St Seve near Poitiers :

August 26, 2009 at 9:06 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773051Praxiteles
Participant@Canus wrote:
Clonea Power Church is by JJ Mc Carthy C. 1860 , Is very impressive in its scale and location, in a beautiful part of Co Waterford behind the Comeraghs.
Plans do no reflect the quality of the church, particularly in blanket wall to wall instillation of ” polyfloor kudos whitle marble vinyl covering ” in scanturary and side chapels and large square “polyfloor vinyl tiles over ardex surface “in nave and aisles. Description is awful enough , just think what Pugin would say. No regard given to existing floor surfaces both original and exposed or currently covered over. McCarthy favoured small diagonal red and black tles in aisles. A church of this quality would be expected to have encaustic tiles in scanturay, which is currently carpeted.
Scantuary extension into nave is unneccessary
Can anyone visit ? Plans are on Waterford Co Co website ref 09/487
Photo on Co. Waterford Image Archive as follows :
Number : EB14
Title : Clonea-Power Church
Description : The front facade of Clonea-Power Church with a group of men standing outside. The church in Clonea-Power was built in 1860 at a cost of £6,000 by the Rev. Timothy Dowley, P.P.. The architect’s name was McCarthy.
Photographer : Brenan, Edward
Image Date : Circa 1910
Museum Contact : Fraher, Willie
Donor : Name Kept Private
Archive Url : http://www.waterfordcountyimages.org/exhibit/web
Copyright : Co. Waterford Image Archive
Why do you not lodge an objection with Waterford County Council before the possibility of doing so expires?
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