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- March 6, 2010 at 8:20 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773772
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ParticipantThe final part of the consecration ceremony is the Pontifical High Mass
March 6, 2010 at 8:11 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773771Praxiteles
ParticipantCeremonies of Consecration for a church according to the unrevised Roman Rite
In the course of our discussions here, we have referred numerous times to the various appointments of church interiors and to their significance in virtue of the a church’s consecration. Such items will include altars, doors, stations of the cross, consecration crosses etc. We are most fotunate to have here a video of the entire ceremonyof consecration which was conducted last Sunday in Lincoln Nebraska for the consecration of the chapel of the seminary of Our Lady of Guadelupe. The commentary on the video often afford useful historical, liturgical and theological commentary:
March 5, 2010 at 9:28 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773769Praxiteles
ParticipantShrine of the Cathach
The central figure on the cover not dressed as the earlier examples of the appolonian Christ that we have seen.
Rather than the classical toga, the figure wears what looks likes priestly vestments of alb and chasuble of their antecedents.
March 4, 2010 at 9:33 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773768Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Sagrada Familia

Finally, it is about to be completed. The Vatican News Service today published an announcement thath the Sagrada familia will be consecrated on 7 November 2010 by the Pope:
POPE TO VISIT SANTIAGO DE COMPOSTELA AND BARCELONA
VATICAN CITY, 4 MAR 2010 (VIS) – Benedict XVI is due to visit the Spanish cities of Santiago de Compostela and Barcelona in November this year, according to announcements made yesterday by Archbishop Julian Barrio Barrio of Santiago de Compostela, and Cardinal Lluis Martinez Sistach, archbishop of Barcelona.
The Holy Father will travel to Santiago de Compostela on 6 November, for the occasion of the Compostela Holy Year, then move on to Barcelona on 7 November where he will consecrate the church of the “Sagrada Familia“.
This will be Benedict XVI’s second visit to Spain, the first having been in July 2006 for the Fifth World Meeting of Families in Valencia. Furthermore, he is expected to return to the country in August 2011 for the celebration of World Youth Day.
March 4, 2010 at 3:23 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773767Praxiteles
ParticipantAn ivory of Christ enthroned from c. 800-850
March 4, 2010 at 2:56 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773766Praxiteles
ParticipantAnother appollonian Christ dating from around 370:
March 4, 2010 at 2:54 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773765Praxiteles
ParticipantJustinian’s mid 6th century figure of and appolonian Christ in San Vitale in Ravenna:
March 4, 2010 at 2:50 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773764Praxiteles
Participant<Here is the example of the image of Christ on the sarcaophagus of Junius Bassus from around 360:

A youthful figure, in imperial session, clean shaven, short hair, in senatorial toga.
March 4, 2010 at 2:40 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773763Praxiteles
Participant@Praxiteles wrote:
A line drawing of the cover of the Cathach:

The Cathach was enclosed in a specially made shrine sometime in the 1000’s. This was done by Cathbharr Ó Domhnaill, chief of the O’Donnells and Domhnall Mag Robhartaigh, the Abbot of Kells. The shrine cover consists of a brass box measuring 9 inches long, 8 inches wide and 2 inches thick. The top is heavily decorated with silver, crystals, pearls and other precious stones. It shows an image of the Crucifixion and an image of St Colm Cille.
However, more interesting is the central figure of the cover which I take to be Christ and, if dating from the around the year 1000, must surely be a copy of a representation from the late antique period. This firure is straight out of Classical antiquity with antecedents in the mosaics of Santa Pudentiana and ultimately the Temple of Apollo on the Capitoline hill.
March 3, 2010 at 11:23 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773761Praxiteles
ParticipantA line drawing of the cover of the Cathach:
March 3, 2010 at 10:37 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773760Praxiteles
ParticipantMarch 3, 2010 at 10:29 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773759Praxiteles
ParticipantWell, here is a start:
St Columba in t Bridget’s Cathedral, Kildare

A window in Iona:
http://saintsandblesseds.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/saint_columba.jpg?w=212&h=300The book asociated with Columba was the Cathach -the copy of the psalter carried into battle by the O’Donnell. The shrine survuves.
This appears to be a folio from the manuscript:

The shrine for the Cathach
March 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773758Praxiteles
ParticipantIrish iconographic representations
perhaps these might be of interest:
O’HANLON, Lives of the Irish Saints, IV (Dublin, s.d.); HEALY, Ireland’s Ancient Schools and Scholars (4th ed., Dublin, 1902); UA CLERIGH, History of Ireland (London, 1908).
BTW: is the door in the drawing above a modern door? It looks peculiarly at odds with whct appears to be a Gothic or gothicized interior.
March 3, 2010 at 4:52 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773756Praxiteles
ParticipantHere is a startibg point: The Codex Salmanticensis
Of interest in our case ff. 83-86
[Manuscript in the Bibliotheque Royale in Brussels n. ]
Thereafter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acta_SanctorumAnd then the searchable data base which is not so searchable:
March 3, 2010 at 4:25 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773755Praxiteles
Participant@apelles wrote:
Don’t suppose you’d have access to Iconic or indeed any representations of these chaps Prax. .
The Twelve Apostles of Erin
By this designation are meant twelve holy Irishmen of the sixth century who went to study at the Clonard in Meath. About the year 520 St. Finian founded his famous school at Cluain-Eraird (Eraird’s Meadow), now Clonard, and thither flocked saints and learned men from all parts of Ireland. In his Irish life it is said that the average number of scholars under instruction at Clonard was 3,000, and a stanza of the hymn for Lauds in the office of St. Finian runs as follows:
Trium virorum millium,
Sorte fit doctor humilis;
Verbi his fudit fluvium
Ut fons emanans rivulis.The Twelve Apostles of Erin, who came to study at the feet of St. Finian, at Clonard, on the banks of the Boyne and Kinnegad Rivers, are said to have been St. Ciaran of Saighir (Seir-Kieran) and St. Ciaran of Clonmacnois; St. Brendan of Birr and St. Brendan of Clonfert; St. Columba of Tir-da-glasà (Terryglass) and St. Columba of Iona; St. Mobhà of Glasnevin; St. Ruadhan of Lorrha; St. Senan of Iniscathay (Scattery Island); St. Ninnidh the Saintly of Loch Erne; St. Lasserian mac Nadfraech, and St. Canice of Aghaboe. Though there were many other holy men educated at Clonard who could claim to be veritable apostles, the above twelve are regarded by old Irish writers as “The Twelve Apostles of Erin”. They are not unworthy of the title, for all were indeed apostles, whose studies were founded on the Sacred Scriptures as expounded by St. Finian. In the hymn from St. Finian’s office we read:
Fate would have [him]
the humble teacher of
three thousand men,
[on whom] he poured out the river of the Word,
as a spring [pours warter] into many rivuletsRegressus in Clonardiam
Ad cathedram lecturae
Apponit diligentiam
Ad studium scripturae.The great founder of Clonard died 12 December 549, according to the “Annals of Ulster”, but the Four Masters give the year as 548, whilst Colgan makes the date 563. His patronal feast is observed on 12 December.
And a translation of the above latin hymns would also be greatly appreciated. . .
An interesting hymn, Appelles. Have you the complete text and Where does it come from? It is not included in the Propria Quorundum Hiberniae Sanctorum published in Dublin in 1792.
A rough translation would run:
Fate would have [him]
the humble teacher of
three thousand men,
[on whom] he poured out the river of the Word,
as a spring [pours warter] into many rivuletsReturning to Clonard,
to his teaching chair,
he diligently applied (himself)
to the study of Scripture.A search for iconographic descriptions of these saints wouèld require a search of available sources. A challenge.
March 2, 2010 at 9:56 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773753Praxiteles
ParticipantIconography of St Agathius:
March 2, 2010 at 9:54 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773752Praxiteles
ParticipantIconography of St Barbara (Jan van Eyck)
March 2, 2010 at 9:51 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773751Praxiteles
ParticipantIconography of St Blaise (Oriental)
March 2, 2010 at 9:47 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773750Praxiteles
ParticipantIconography of St Catherine of Alexandria (Caravaggio)
March 2, 2010 at 9:44 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #773749Praxiteles
Participanticonography of St Christopher (Hieronomous Bosch)

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